On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:47:10PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:41:08AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > It's more likely because you weren't around on firstname.lastname@example.org in > > early 2001 when the decisions were made... (Shame on you!) > Yes, this is another problem. Debian policy, Debian legal, boot-floppies and > whatever there is more on important decision making mailng lists are not > transparent to the debian developer who cant follow all of them. Thanks to > Joey this will not be the case anymore. While Joey's doing a superlative job, I think you're being a bit optimistic on how much help it'll be: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2000/41/ Anthony's main concern is that the new debian-installer project is not ready yet, and the old boot floppies need several months of work to be usable for woody. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0012/msg00012.html So I think the thing we probably need to focus first on is getting some way to install woody directly. Which means we need to decide whether we're going to keep hammering away at debian-installer until it actually becomes usable, or if we're going to bite the bullet and just accept that we're going to use boot-floppies again, not be able to improve them much and get flamed for it in all the woody reviews too. If we do go with boot-floppies for woody, I'd be strongly inclined towards downplaying debian-installer so as not to divide the testing effort and leave us with a choice of two installation methods that both suck. To get boot-floppies to work with woody at about the same quality as potato's install, will likely take a couple of months; to get debian-installer to work at a similar quality could take... four months? six? http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2001/6/ The boot-floppies team needs help. Adam Di Carlo wrote in, asking for help on what may be the final revision of the boot floppies -- for woody -- before the upcoming debian-installer effort replaces them. According to Adam, "a lot of the 'talent' have been sucked into debian-installer. I have pretty much no one helping me right now with boot-floppies maintenance." He included a list of tasks that need doing to get a usable set of boot floppies for woody, and concluded, "Please help me out. Otherwise, god knows when we'll be able to release woody!" There's more to Debian than anyone can reasonably expect to stay consistently on top of, IMO. Even just within the "core" bits. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <email@example.com> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``If you don't do it now, you'll be one year older when you do.''
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