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Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:09:13AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:45, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> > > That might work for a non-technological society.  It doesn't scale to
> > > chip fabs capable of producing 50 million transistor CPUs that run at
> > > 3GHz, and other similar technological production.
> > >
> > > Being into technology we all depend on things that are not possible
> > > without corporations.  Therefore we can't oppose private property and
> > > companies.
> >
> > I doubt that. If a public society can build highways that costs millions
> > of euros per kilometer, then why can it not build chip fabs?
> As for chip fabs.  How will you get several thousand people in one place, all 
> highly trained (in some cases having years of specialist training) and ready 
> to work at the same time other than having someone pay them?

Well, how does debian have a thousand developers, all working on
making a free operating system, without being paid for it? Or do you
not think that developing software for linux requires people who are
highly trained?

> I'm happy to attend install-fests and spend a half day configuring other 
> people's PCs without pay.  But I'm not going to spend several years of 
> non-stop work without getting something for it!

So, all your long work on debian and SE Linux was equivalent to a half
day install fest? Or was it more equivalent to several years of work?
I'm inclined to think that its the latter, and that many other
developers in the open source community have also put in years of

I personally think that Debian and the open source community in
general is a shining example of anarchism. It's a large, complex
social structure that functions entirely freely of government
control. How many other international volunteer projects have so many
members and have done so much in terms of actually creating wealth (a
wealth of software, and information) in the public domain? How many
other volunteer organizations have done so much to free the world from
the control of corporations?

michael cardenas       | lead software engineer, lindows.com
hyperpoem.net          | GNU/Linux software developer
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