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Re: [desktop] why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks

On 10/24/2002 11:26 AM, Marek Habersack at grendel@debian.org wrote:

> The question is whether Debian Desktop will exist for bare window managers
> and XFCe, too? Or do we consider only KDE/GNOME as the DD target
> environments?
Personally, I would very much like to see Debian Desktop support more than
just KDE and Gnome, although that is just my view.

However, there are some good reasons for Debian Desktop to support some of
the more popular, lightweight window managers.

First off, it is in keeping with the spirit of software libre and freedom of

Also, in countries outside the rich G8 type countries, i.e. the 2nd and 3rd
world; folks don't yet have computers with 2.2 GHz processors and 512 meg of
Ram and a big honkin' hard drive.  And given the fact that Linux is rapidly
expanding in just those sorts of countries because Linux is so cheap, Debian
Desktop should support these users with some lightweight windows managers
suitable to their types of computers.

> A newbie will not use a bare WindowMaker... If they do, they're not newbies
> anymore, IMHO. Otherwise we might be forced to somehow add support for twm
> :-)
Agreed.  The default install of Windowmaker is very barren.  If Windowmaker
is one of the other GUIs that Desktop Debian strongly supports, I would like
to see a much more complete and immediately usable default install.  A good
clip and workspace layout; good selection of dock apps; a nice Debian theme;

Windowmaker can be a really great GUI, but it needs a decent default
configuration for the newbie who has neither the inclination nor the
knowledge to tweak it.

Luke Seubert

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