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Re: Shouldn't desktop environments use *term -ls? (Re: The best recommendation [...])

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Don't do that.

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On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 01:34:09AM +0200, Manfred Wassmann wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > If the display manager supports PAM, as I think all display managers
> > currently in woody do, then pam_env.so will have been run well before
> > the terminal emulators are started.  Therefore -ls is overkill.
> Simple answer: No
> Either pam_env.so isn't run or it doesn't work.

$ dlocate -S pam_env.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_env.so

Sounds like a bug.

> > Furthermore, I personally am resistant to specifying -ls for all Debian
> > window managers because:
> > 
> > * it would be disruptive to the expectations of users who have gotten
> >   used to it not being set
> Not a good reason. Now it's disruptive to the expectations of users who
> don't want to get used to buggy behaviour.

For your subjective (and self-serving, apparently) definition of
"buggy".  Some of us, believe it or not, understand the distinction
between "login shells" and ordinary interactive shells.

> > * I'm not sure all x-terminal-emulator packages support "-ls".
> It doesn't have to be the -ls switch.  I'd be happy with any decent
> solution ensuring that terminal emlators invoke shells in a way that
> startup files for interactive shells are read, if they are used to run
> interactive shells.

Feel free to propose one.

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