Re: Uninstallable packages in woody
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Hartman" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Uninstallable packages in woody
> >>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Towns <email@example.com> writes:
> Anthony> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:56:33PM -0700, Thomas
> Anthony> Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> >> Michael Beattie <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > Go and try to work
> >> out what can and cannot be moved. go and take a look > at the
> >> incredible complexity of inter-dependencies in packages. you'll
> >> > quickly work out that what you propose is actually not that
> >> easy. hence > why I usually take a while to pluck up the
> >> courage and actually attempt > to fix these things. it is a
> >> HUGE drain on time. I sent bug reports, saying "this conflicts
> >> with that, one or both should be moved to extra"
> Anthony> I'm not sure why you'd think a morass of bug reports is
> Anthony> less of a time drain. Talk to Michael first, and work out
> Anthony> a way of helping which actually *helps*, don't just do
> Anthony> whatever you think's fun and then complain.
> As a package maintainer, I'd actually appreciate bug reports on my
> packages filed say after the release or some other time when changing
> priorities is not going to be annoying. I'd especially appreciate
> bugs that have useful suggestions on how to remove conflicts or on
> which package should become extra. I probably wouldn't really
> appreciate such bugs being RC, even though it is a policy violation;
> in most cases I'd tolerate it but not exactly be happy. I'd certainly
> reserve the right to downgrade if it were a complex situation that I
> couldn't resolve.
> Why does this save time? Because I'm doing the work not ftpmaster. There
are a lot more of us individual developers than their are ftpmasters. I
> might need to go talk to other package maintainers, but hey I can do
> that. I've generally found that when I talk to another package
> maintainer and ask them to change a priority with a clearly reasoned
> argument they haven't expressed annoyance to me in the past.
> Yeah, ftpmaster still needs to get involved when I eventually upload a
> package that doesn't match the override file. I suspect it is easier
> to deal with mail clearly outlining why an override change is a good
> idea than to walk through the dependencies themselves.
> In theory I could go check the unmet-foo list and not need the bugs
> filed, so I can see an argument that the bugs are a waste of time that
> way too. Honestly though, Debian makes it easy to close bugs; I'll
> eventually have to upload a new package regardless of whether
> ftpmaster or I changes the priority first and closing the bug in that
> upload seems reasonable.
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