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Re: Bug#147303: ITP: winex -- A DESCRIPTION

On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 08:01:31PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> You do realize that we are talking about non-free software, do you?

Yes I do, but I think most of WineX users don't. If they do, why would
Transgaming care about that at all, and not put in appropriate non-free
license to start with?

> I don't get why everybody gets so upset about this. WineX is non-free,
> cope with it. They don't claim anything immoral anymore so it's OK I
> guess.

Well, I have personal bias against this company. When they started,
they've claimed to contribute all their changes back to Wine, and that
never happened. Instead, they started their own non-free fork of Wine.
Last time I checked, they claimed that I can download WineX in any form
(source of binary) from their site, while actually the only way to get
WineX without subscribing is to checkout from CVS on SF, and this is
very inconvinient with my network setup. For quite some time I thought I
was alone in experiencing these problems, but lately I began to think
that they deliberately lied in both cases, and I just don't like it.

> I don't know if you get .debs when you subscribe, but Ove might want
> to add a debian/ dir to cvs to make building a *local* (like in the
> intended use) package easier for Debian users.

It could help some people, but still I would prefer not to go through
tribulations of going to CVS and building my own WineX instead of just
apt-upgrading kosher wine package. For me, this one became yet another
case when RMS is right and you have to use GPL if you really want to
protect your work from leeching.

> Actually, I'd be more interested in Crossover-{Plugin, Office} debian
> packages, too. Dunno what kind of license Codeweaver's put on their
> product.

I never touched any Crossover stuff from CodeWeavers, but if you
encounter situation similar to the one we're discussing, I would
strongly support your or anyone's desire to clarify and publicize the
issue. (AFAIK Crossover stuff was proprietary from the very beginning,
so the only remaining question is whether it uses LGPLed code.)

Dmitry Borodaenko

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