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>debian-devel-digest Digest				Volume 102 : Issue 270

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>Today's Topics:
>  Re: xconq (was: [2002-02-22] Release  [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Re: xconq (was: [2002-02-22] Release  [ "Tille, Andreas" <TilleA@rki.de> ]
>  Re: Bug#134774: slapd: fails to inst  [ Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.m ]
>  Re: should a postinst script create   [ Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.m ]
>  Re: should a postinst script create   [ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@de ]
>  Re: should a postinst script create   [ Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk> ]
>  Re: Incomplete build depends on bina  [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
>  Re: {base,standard}.debian.net not t  [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
>  Re: Proposal to help Debian release   [ Jeroen Dekkers <jeroen@dekkers.cx> ]
>  Re: should a postinst script create   [ Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.m ]
>  Re: xconq (was: [2002-02-22] Release  [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Re: [2002-02-22] Release Status Upda  [ Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> ]
>  Bug#135213: ITP: solarwolf -- Collec  [ Josselin Mouette <josselin.mouette@ ]
>  LSB Users & Groups                    [ George Kraft IV <gk4@austin.ibm.com ]
>  Re: Bug#134774: slapd: fails to inst  [ Ryan Murray <rmurray@cyberhqz.com> ]
>  Re: LSB Users & Groups                [ Wichert Akkerman <wichert@wiggy.net ]
>  counterproposal: was Re: Proposal to  [ John Galt <galt@inconnu.isu.edu> ]
>  Patches                               [ Michael Piefel <piefel@debian.org> ]
>  Re: LSB Users & Groups                [ Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> ]


>Date: 22 Feb 2002 11:21:48 +0100
>From: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>
>To: Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson@ens-lyon.fr>
>Subject: Re: xconq (was: [2002-02-22] Release Status Update)
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>Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson@ens-lyon.fr> writes:

>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:48:18PM +0100, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
>> > [snip long list]
>> > 
>> > The only package I use (or rather would use if it was a recent
>> > version) is xconq. There was some discussion about repackaging it [1]
>> > and a mail from its maintainer (Peter Crystal, [2]), but no upload
>> > since. What is the current status, Peter? 
>> > 
>> > I really would like to have xconq 7.4.1 in woody. For that we would
>> > have to fix the grave bug #80576, but since that seems to be caused in
>> > commandline parsing (haven't looked into the source yet), it shouldn't
>> > be too hard to fix.
>> I did report a whole bunch of bugs from the BTS to upstream, and most of
>> them are fixed in upstream cvs. This perticular bug have a patch in the
>> report, isn't it ? The bug is open since 27 Dec 2000, the patch since 17 Jan
>> 2002, and we still wait for an answer of the maintainer about this.
>> > If noone else steps forward, I may start to package xconq 7.4.1 from
>> > scratch, try to fix #80576 and look trough the other (esp. RC) bugs
>> > (probably #107410 is fixed by new upstream and #107313 has a patch).
>> I guess it's too late to package a new version of the package, sadly. Should
>> woody wait 3 weeks to have it entering afterward ? Or are you planning to
>> upload untested software to testing ? :)
>I don't know if it's really too late. Perhaps I will repackage it
>anyway, upload it to DELAYED/some-day and see what happens.

>> I also would like to use xconq, if the packaged version would be more
>> recent. But I'm ok having it dropped from this release if it permits to do a
>> quick release, and if woody + 1 comes quickly, too (what I expect to happen,
>> somehow).
>I don't care much about the version we have now in woody, since the
>upstream (7.4.1) looks so much better :-)

>> If you want to keep it into woody, just make an upload applying the given
>> patch which was reviewed by upstream...
>I will look into it right now -- if I manage to produce a decent 7.4.1
>pkg today, I will upload it, else I'll leave it alone.

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>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:48:38 +0100 (CET)
>From: "Tille, Andreas" <TilleA@rki.de>
>To: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>
>Cc: Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson@ens-lyon.fr>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: xconq (was: [2002-02-22] Release Status Update)
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>On 22 Feb 2002, Andreas Rottmann wrote:

>> I will look into it right now -- if I manage to produce a decent 7.4.1
>> pkg today, I will upload it, else I'll leave it alone.
>Please note the hint about splitting the package of my previous mail.

>In case you will leave it alone please inform the list again.

>Thanks for your effort

>        Andreas.


>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 07:58:56 -0500
>From: Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Bug#134774: slapd: fails to install
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>On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 07:57:09PM +0100, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
>> BTW: This is the script I use, are there comments available from security
>> experts? Does anybody know a version that uses sh only and does not rely on
>> perl?
>> if (!open(R,"/dev/random")) {

>I would generally say, don't use /dev/random unless you need _true_
>randomness (and understand why).  Otherwise, you're only draining

>I would just use rand and srand (which uses /dev/urandom) in Perl.



>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:09:15 -0500
>From: Andrew Pimlott <andrew@pimlott.ne.mediaone.net>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Cc: Brian May <bam@debian.org>, Maik Busch <maik.busch@web.de>
>Subject: Re: should a postinst script create config files?
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>On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:17:29AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
>> Just for the record, the problem with including it with a conffile
>> (as you seem to imply), is that when the ForwardX11 option
>> changes the system adminstrator has to decide which version of the
>> file to install.

>Not handling it as a conffile improves the situation how?

>> If he/she picks don't install new file, then sshd is started with
>> the old value of ForwardX11, until the adminstrator can/remembers
>> to merge in the change.
>> If he/she picks the new value, then sshd is started with the default
>> policy, not the local policy. It is up to the system adminstrator to
>> merge the changes together.

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