Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V102 #112
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>Today's Topics:
> Re: fun with libgal [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
> Re: fun with libgal [ kitame@northeye.org (Takuo KITAME) ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Glenn Maynard <g_deb@zewt.org> ]
> Re: fun with libgal [ Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.j ]
> Re: Desktop Entry Standard replaceme [ Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson@ens- ]
> [±¤°í] ¹é¸¸ÀåÀÚÀÇ ±æ!! [ e-biz4you <e-biz4you@simmani.com> ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> ITP: tora [ Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.j ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> ]
> Bug#130650: ITP: tora -- Tora is a p [ Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org> ]
> Re: non-ASCII characters in /etc/loc [ Alastair McKinstry <mckinstry@compu ]
> Re: balsa build help [ Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.o ]
> Apologies from TrafficWoW [ "Sales Team" <abuse@trafficwow.net> ]
> Re: Desktop Entry Standard replaceme [ Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@gnome-db.org> ]
> Re: non-ASCII characters in /etc/loc [ Tomohiro KUBOTA <tkubota@riken.go.j ]
> Re: Desktop Entry Standard replaceme [ Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@sva ]
> Re: Desktop Entry Standard replaceme [ Erich Schubert <erich@debian.org> ]
> Re: Desktop Entry Standard replaceme [ Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@gnome-db.org> ]
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:30:43 +0100 (CET)
>From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
>To: Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>
>cc: kitame@northeye.org, <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: fun with libgal
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.NEB.4.44.0201241024000.14017-100000@mimas.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>
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>On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
>>...
>> Wouldn't it help the "testing" distribution
>> (except for the size of archive?)
>> if there was gal18 and gal19 simultaneously, in archive.
>>...
>How do you want to solve the problems with inter-library dependencies?
>Consider something like the following:
>Package: evolution
>Version: 1.0.1-1
>Depends: libgal19, libgtkhtml20
>Package: libgtkhtml20
>Version: 1.0.0-1
>Depends: libgal18
>This means that evolution is linked with _both_ libgal.so.18 and
>libgal.so.19. It might work in most cases but if you are unlucky there
>might be run-time failures in the program (hint: libpng2 <-> libpng3).
>As long as only one libgalXY package is in testing at a time this means
>that this problem can't occur in testing.
>> regards
>> junichi
>cu
>Adrian
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 18:53:15 +0900
>From: kitame@northeye.org (Takuo KITAME)
>To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
>Cc: <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: fun with libgal
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 87y9io6po4.wl@northeye.org>
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>>>>>> In article <[🔎] Pine.NEB.4.44.0201241024000.14017-100000@mimas.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de>,
>>>>>> "AB" == Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> wrote...:
>AB> How do you want to solve the problems with inter-library dependencies?
>AB> Consider something like the following:
>AB> Package: evolution
>AB> Version: 1.0.1-1
>AB> Depends: libgal19, libgtkhtml20
>AB> Package: libgtkhtml20
>AB> Version: 1.0.0-1
>AB> Depends: libgal18
>AB> This means that evolution is linked with _both_ libgal.so.18 and
>AB> libgal.so.19. It might work in most cases but if you are unlucky there
>AB> might be run-time failures in the program (hint: libpng2 <-> libpng3).
>AB> As long as only one libgalXY package is in testing at a time this means
>AB> that this problem can't occur in testing.
>It can be resolved with Versioned Build-Depends.
>--
>Takuo KITAME.
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 05:13:30 -0500
>From: Glenn Maynard <g_deb@zewt.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: balsa build help
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020124101330.GA5437@zewt.org>
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>On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:16:09AM +0000, Jules Bean wrote:
>> The problem will reoccur when the final executable is linked, though,
>> won't it? Since the final executable (balsa) is a C-executable.
>Oh, pspell gives a C interface. (That makes this bug more severe.) In
>that case, adding the stdc++ link explicitely is probably all that can
>be done until it's fixed in the library.
>> There is logic in autoconf linking libraries incrementally
>> (i.e. linking all previously discovered libraries into each successive
>> test) - since the final executable will be linked with them all, why
>> not discover the incompatibilty at configure time?
>There may be many binaries being linked with varying libraries, etc. If
>this test is wanted, it should be done explicitely (link a test program
>against all of the libraries in use), not as a side-effect. I don't
>think it matters, though.
>--
>Glenn Maynard
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:18:29 +0900
>From: Junichi Uekawa <dancer@netfort.gr.jp>
>To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
>Cc: kitame@northeye.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: fun with libgal
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 20020124191829.1647a07f.dancer@netfort.gr.jp>
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>Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> cum veritate scripsit:
>> Package: evolution
>> Version: 1.0.1-1
>> Depends: libgal19, libgtkhtml20
>>
>> Package: libgtkhtml20
>> Version: 1.0.0-1
>> Depends: libgal18
>> This means that evolution is linked with _both_ libgal.so.18 and
>> libgal.so.19. It might work in most cases but if you are unlucky there
>> might be run-time failures in the program (hint: libpng2 <-> libpng3).
>>
>> As long as only one libgalXY package is in testing at a time this means
>> that this problem can't occur in testing.
>As long as libgalxx-dev exists, and
>libgtkhtml-dev has a Depends: on libgalxx-dev,
>and libgalxx-dev Provides: Conflicts: libgal-dev,
>it should be impossible to build an evolution
>with libgalyy-dev.
>Or, if you are prepared to do more typing,
>as Kitame mentioned, some versioned Build-Depends would
>be a possible alternative.
>Same to qt, and libpng.
>That's my understanding, anyway.
>regards,
> junichi
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>dancer@debian.org : Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer
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>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:22:12 +0100
>From: Martin Quinson <Martin.Quinson@ens-lyon.fr>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Desktop Entry Standard replacement for Debian menu?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20020124102212.GB10487@blaise.ens-lyon.fr>
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>On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 10:29:15AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 09:32:
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