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Re: Bug#129604: general: Social Contract: We Do Hide Problems



On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 17:56, Ben Collins wrote:
> I think most people consider "hiding" as an intent to deceive, when it
> comes to security issues (the context we are discussing). While a lot of
> users might consider the timeframe between discovery and announcement as
> "hiding", we have to make sure they understand that their best interests
> are held, and that we are not trying to deceive anyone, and that the
> timeframe is not a way to "hide" vulnerabilities, but a mechanism to be
> sure they are protected, prior to public knowledge.

This doesn't cut the cheese. If, say, ``vsftpd'' i bugged with a remote
root exploit with no patch in sight then I want to know, so I can remove
this application system. I you know of such a hole and you are  not
telling me, then you are hiding the problem from me. This simple and
really can't be argued.

There is a problem and your are not telling. Your motive may be good,
but your action is "hiding the problem'' from me. Indeed, you are
deceiving me. I believe there is nothing wrong with ``vsftpd'' and you
are hiding from me the fact that it isn't.

The minute security is notified of a hole the hiding starts, unless an
announcement is sent out.
 
-- 
Lars Bahner,
http://lars.bahner.com/

Nihil est sine ratione cur potius sit, quam non sit.

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