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>debian-devel-digest Digest				Volume 102 : Issue 11

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>Today's Topics:
>  Re: bogus maintainers?                [ Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org> ]
>  Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled a  [ Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@de ]
>  Re: bogus maintainers?                [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
>  Re: EURO and CENT signs in the conso  [ Ari Makela <hauva@arska.org> ]
>  Re: EURO and CENT signs in the conso  [ Ari Makela <hauva@arska.org> ]
>  Re: bogus maintainers?                [ Gerfried Fuchs <alfie@ist.org> ]
>  Re: BitKeeper                         [ Stephen Zander <gibreel@debian.org> ]
>  Re: BitKeeper                         [ tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG ]
>  Re: bogus maintainers?                [ Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> ]
>  Re: An alarming trend (no it's not f  [ Darrell Rene Dupas <ddupasedm@netsc ]
>  Re: bogus maintainers?                [ Gerfried Fuchs <alfie@ist.org> ]
>  Re: EURO and CENT signs in the conso  [ Samuel Tardieu <sam@debian.org> ]
>  Re: An alarming trend (no it's not f  [ Craig Dickson <crdic@yahoo.com> ]
>  Re: BitKeeper                         [ Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net> ]
>  Re: EURO and CENT signs in the conso  [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Re: EURO and CENT signs in the conso  [ Miquel van Smoorenburg <miquels@cis ]
>  Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled a  [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Some thoughts about problems within   [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]

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>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 20:37:31 +0100
>From: Bas Zoetekouw <bas@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-www@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: bogus maintainers?
>Message-ID: <20020103193731.GA660@richard.a-es2.oi>
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>Hi Josip!

>You wrote:

>> > >   Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package  <unknown@unconfigured.in.etc.kernel-pkg.conf>
>> > >   main:   kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04
>> > > 
>> > > What's up with this?  This is not a legitimate maintainer address IMO.
>> > 
>> > Probably the script that generates this page is broken
>> 
>> How the hell were you able to draw that conclusion? The script may be
>> broken, but that it would randomly insert local data into the web pages,
>> well that's just too stupid even for that script. :P

>What I meant was: the page was apparently generated from local data
>(from a local /var/lib/dpkg/available perhaps?).


>-- 
>Kind regards,
>+---------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Bas Zoetekouw                  | Si l'on sait exactement ce   |
>|--------------------------------| que l'on va faire, a quoi    |
>| zoetekw@phys.uu.nl             | bon le faire?                |
>|    bas@A-Es2.uu.nl             |               Pablo Picasso  |
>+---------------------------------------------------------------+ 

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>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:48:53 -0200
>From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
>Message-ID: <20020103174852.A27055@khazad-dum>
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>On Thu, 03 Jan 2002, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>> and have created one (See 127215).  From my perspective the problem
>> seems to be the libpng3 changes the dependencies of qt2 and hense kde.
>> It seems the fix is not to revert/fix libpng but to fix the qt
>> dependencies however I get the impression that frustration is setting

>Yes. Actually, we have the same problem with every library that links with
>another library that is likely to be used by an app.

>The best example is libdb*, but there are others. libtiff, libpng, libsasl,
>libz...

>You either make sure EVERYthing is linked against the same library versions
>(and good luck with binary compatibility with other distributions for
>anything that has a shared library), or you must tell any libraries that
>link to other libraries to use --symbolic dynamic linking, or you must use
>versioned symbols.  Maybe there is a fourth way, but I don't know of any.

>Implementing any of the fixes is bound to be painful.

>> in.  ie. did not create the bug so I should not fix it.  From a user

>We actually need a Debian-wide (well, probably a LSB-wide) fix for the
>problem. The same kind of breakage is expected to hit us again and again
>until we do that.

>-- 
>  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
>  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
>  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
>  Henrique Holschuh

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>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:06:01 +0100
>From: Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-www@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: bogus maintainers?
>Message-ID: <20020103210601.C17849@cibalia.gkvk.hr>
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>On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
>> > > >   Maintainer, Unknown Kernel Package  <unknown@unconfigured.in.etc.kernel-pkg.conf>
>> > > >   main:   kernel-doc-2.4.5-r4k-kn04, kernel-source-2.4.5-r4k-kn04
>> > > > 
>> > > > What's up with this?  This is not a legitimate maintainer address IMO.
>> > > 
>> > > Probably the script that generates this page is broken
>> > 
>> > How the hell were you able to draw that conclusion? The script may be
>> > broken, but that it would randomly insert local data into the web pages,
>> > well that's just too stupid even for that script. :P
>> 
>> What I meant was: the page was apparently generated from local data
>> (from a local /var/lib/dpkg/available perhaps?).

>And I said it _was not_.

>The broken package really was in sid, my few-days-old sid still has it.
>It's been fixed in the meantime. The devel/people page will be regenerated
>shortly.

>-- 
>     2. That which causes joy or happiness.

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>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:00:06 +0200
>From: Ari Makela <hauva@arska.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: EURO and CENT signs in the console keymaps
>Message-ID: <20020103200006.GA30127@lagavulin.sappho.net>
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>On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:08:48AM +0100, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:

>> I suppose swedish and danish keyboards are alike. 

>I think they are almost identical. AFAIK the only difference is that 
>'ä' and 'ö' have changed places on the keyboard. And, of course, the
>Danes do not use 'ö' but ø but that's a little different thing.

>Finnish and Swedish keyboards are identical as Finnish Linux users well
>know: at least Corel and RH have had several times broken Finnish
>keymaps (fi instead of the correct fi-latin1). So the Finnish users have
>used the Swedish keymaps.

>> standard. (AltGr+3 is £, AltGr+4 $ and AltGr+6 is apparently ¥ in X11, but I 
>> have never seen the later drawn on any keyboard).

><aol>me neither</aol>. I must show my ignoran

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