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Re: Debian trademark [was: Debian GNU/w32, may ready to be started?]



On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:48:49PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> 
> What part of this port is non-free?

the kernel.

> The only non-free component I know of is the target OS, which has nothing
> to do with the content of the port.

take out the kernel, and what do you have?

> This "touching proprietary software is poison" concept is simply not
> very useful in practice, and is NOT supported by the DFSG.

"Social Contract" with the Free Software Community[1]

    1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software

this is why contrib and non-free are _not part of Debian_

from item five of the Social Contract (Programs That Don't Meet Our
Free-Software Standards)
	``We have created "contrib" and "non-free" areas in our FTP
	archive for this software. The software in these directories is
	not part of the Debian system, although it has been configured
	for use with Debian.''

may i stress the ``not part of the Debian system'' ?

the pendantic people might like to point out that this is more of a
port, so here goes:[2]

	Debian is an OS, not a kernel

now we can argue if a kernel is part of an OS or not. i say it is, but
others may disagree.

i am against the Debian trademark being watered down by a port to a
non-DFSG-free kernel.[3]

-john

[1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract
    note that this is the same page as the DFSG.

[2] http://www.debian.org/ports/index

[3] yes, this includes Debian GNU/Solaris.



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