Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #225
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> Re: Color in init scripts, was [logc [ Adam Lazur <zal@debian.org> ]
> Re: update_excuses.html [ Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.or ]
> Re: update_excuses.html [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
> Re: update_excuses.html [ Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> ]
> Re: update_excuses.html [ Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> ]
> Re: virtual package (x-)editor ? [ Steve Greenland <steveg@moregruel.n ]
> Re: xg (Re: virtual package (x-)edit [ Steve Greenland <steveg@moregruel.n ]
> [Matt Crawford <crawdad@fnal.gov>] g [ Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> ]
> Re: I hear you... [ Andreas Metzler <ametzler@downhill. ]
> Re: [vhost-base] Draft policy propos [ Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net> ]
> Re: update_excuses.html [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> heimdal override disparity [ Brian May <bam@debian.org> ]
> Re: heimdal override disparity [ Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.n ]
> Re: Lilo Upgrade Bug [ Brian May <bam@debian.org> ]
> Re: I hear you... [ Grant Bowman <grantbow@svpal.org> ]
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>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:02:42 -0500
>From: Adam Lazur <zal@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Color in init scripts, was [logcheck] I hear you...
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011129150242.B14348@clustermonkey.org>
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>Eduard Bloch (edi@gmx.de) said:
>> Well, if we extend the init scripts in a wise way, we could make use of
>> fancy graphics without breaking much stuff. Return to my first proposal:
>> we define escape sequences to set a mark on certain events. Then we hack
>> init to show the user (eg. on framebuffer console) some fancy graphics
>> bar (eg. using FB toolkits), somethung like the current KDE/Gnome splash
>> (status) screens. Okay, this would need a bit more work, and someone
>> (eventually me) should make a good proposal to standadize this things.
>Escape sequences, parsing output, and hacking init?
>Sounds like a kludge to me.
>See the LSB specifications on system init, it is substantially less
>hackish IMO.
>The url (again) is:
>http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.0.0/gLSB/sysinit.html
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>Adam Lazur, Cluster Monkey
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>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:41:24 +1100
>From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: update_excuses.html
>Message-Id: <[🔎] E169Xzo-0001uw-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au>
>Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> wrote:
>> Why else does this idea suck?
>Because it is not necessary. The maintainer should change the source
>package name.
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>Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
>Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
>Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
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>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:02:18 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@debian.org>
>To: David Schmitt <david@josefine.at>
>cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: update_excuses.html
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>On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, David Schmitt wrote:
>>
>> After taking a quick look at update_excuses I wondered what packages are
>> the 'bottleneck' for advancements in testing. So I wrote a perl hack to
>> extract all unsatisfied i386 dependencies from update_excuses and
>> produce a overall count. It only consideres 'Valid candidates' which
>> have such dependencies.
>>
>> Here is the output for today.
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>> 13 'guile-core'
>I just sent in the patch to fix guile-core on alpha two days ago directly
>to the maintainer. I'll file a formal bug tonight, though, since I
>haven't heard back from him yet. Is alpha the only one holding this one
>up?
>C
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>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:09:56 +0000
>From: Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: update_excuses.html
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011129210955.A31681@blueberry.jellybean.co.uk>
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>On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 07:41:24AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> Jules Bean <jules@jellybean.co.uk> wrote:
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>> > Why else does this idea suck?
>>
>> Because it is not necessary. The maintainer should change the source
>> package name.
>Well yes, but that's more work for the maintainer. And requires
>re-uploading a package which hasn't changed.
>Why not just leave the old one around?
>Jules
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>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:12:48 +1100
>From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: update_excuses.html
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011130081248.A8096@silly.cloud.net.au>
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>On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 05:08:32PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
>> 13 'guile-core'
>[...]
>> 3 'libgeda'
>And the latter is only waiting on the former, in fact. But
>a bunch of other packages (geda-*) depend on libgeda.
>thanks,
>Hamish
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>Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>
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>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:16:15 -0600
>From: Steve Greenland <steveg@moregruel.net>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: virtual package (x-)editor ?
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>On 29-Nov-01, 09:11 (CST), Tomas Pospisek <tpo2@spin.ch> wrote:
>> > you should call '$EDITOR -- $FILE', I'd say (or with the full path to
>> > $FILE, in case the program doesn't understand -- for
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > end-of-switches-list).
>>
>> Well, right now I'm using sensible-editor (as suggested by Steve
>> Greenland, one of the debian policy guys) and I'm getting:
>>
>> tpo@tpo2:tpo$ sensible-editor -- /tmp/kak
>> Argument Error: unknown flag "-"
>> Possible Starting Arguments for Pico editor:
>That's because pico doesn't understand '--', which only provides
>more evidence for my point that there's no standard interface for a
>hypothetical 'editor' virtual package to provide.
>> So much for "sensible-editors" ...
>Well, you've defined EDITOR (or possibly VISUAL
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