Re: Debian lists and Cc'ing people in replies in addition to the list
On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 08:01:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 02:06:29PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > Brandens mail are not educative, but sometimes funny, increasingly
> > often offensive.
>
> "Increasingly often offensive"? Would you care to back that up with
> real statistics?
No, I won't. I have more valuable things to spend my time on.
> The practice of public shaming goes back as far as recorded history, and
> has been shown to be effective in many cultures.
So has been killing people. Both are unethical in my book, and, to be
frank, I don't believe in the effectiveness in either, at least as a way t
solve social problems.
> Or maybe you think that's a cure worse than the disease.
I actually thing that a cure is better than killing the patient, and
infecting a couple of hundred people with a similar disease at the same time.
Clear enough?
> In that case, you can either killfile me or learn to move hastily past my mails
> griping about CC's.
I already go with my finger firmly on "d" through most of the Debian list
mail. I asked you kindly to stop your behaviour to increase the value of
the list and increase the signal/noise ratio. For this goal, I would even
accept that you get a few CC's more each month.
> And my life isn't improved by spam[1] in my inbox. Neither is yours.
> While it's possible that people on whom I take this corrective action
> will only stop CC'ing me on list mails, and continue to CC anyone and
> everyone else, I think the odds are good that they'll stop doing it
> generally. So, yeah, you do benefit.
You couldn't know this, but I prefer to be CC'ed, and by people not CC'ing
me, my life is actually hindered. (For example, because issues get
dropped because I am not aware of a reply to my mail).
> This isn't to say that this
> benefit isn't outweighed by the emotional distress you experience when
> reading one of my complaints. Maybe it is. If so, I kindly ask that
> you not take my flames personally until and unless they're directed at
> you.
It was Lars who raised the issue of my personal benefit or harm. It was not
my motivation to ask you to stop the practice. I actually believe that it
will be more effective for you and better for everyone else to stop spamming
everyone with your personal complaints. What I do privately to avoid them
should not be of your concern. I assure you, I can deal with it.
Thanks,
Marcus
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