On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 03:51:19PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 11:27:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > For reference, in this particular case, no one's actually done those
> > things. We've got a bunch of competent AMs who don't have the time or
> > inclination to do DAM work, and a handful of people who claim they'd be
> > quite happy to get r00t on *.debian.org and add accounts and whatnot,
> > but haven't demonstrated that they'd actually be any good at it.
> How can they do this? I don't remember ever having seen a list of things
> someone has to do to demonstrate it.
Have you ever seen one for becoming a RM?
You know, not everything needs to be spelled out in point form with
subheadings and appendices before it can be done.
> It was also claimed that person who did
> qualify were asked and they rejected.
One person offered, was okay, then changed eir mind. *shrug*
> > To repeat: if you see something you don't like in Debian, or see something
> > you think can be done better, *that* is how you fix it. That's what it
> > means to be a volunteer.
> This is true as long as nobody stands in the way. You can't become a DAM
> by just volunteering, you need to be appointed. For this there is the demand
> that you "demonstrate" that you qualify.
Nobody has even *tried*. Not even remotely.
I know you desperately want to blame James for this, or the DPL, and want
everything clearly documented and whatever else. But you're approaching
it from completely the wrong angle.
> If you think this is too demanding, take it as a mere suggestion how
> to avoid endless bickering about the lack of progress in the DAM stage.
You want to avoid bickering? Then don't bicker! Don't bring up threads
about how the DAM must do such-and-such in such a way (whether it be
approving Eray, rejecting Eray, finding some more co-DAMs, documenting
procedures on how you can become a co-DAM or whatever else).
And if you want something done, *do it yourself*. Become an AM. Go out
of your way to be helpful in whatever ways you can, even if it's not
the ways *you* think need addressing.
And as I should've made clear by now, I'm entirely sure that demanding
*any* specific action on anyone's part is out of line.
Cheers,
aj
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