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Re: don't upgrade! libpam problem!



On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 11:41:10PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 June 2001 12:40 am, Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > I mean, bloody hell, if they don't know how to do init=/bin/sh, why are the
> > running Debian, especially sid??
> >
> 
> I think that's rather harsh. I'm running both Debian and unstable as a 
> learning experience, to find out about these kind of problems as they happen. 
> I didn't know about init=/bin/sh, and although I knew about boot parameters I 
> never would have guessed to set init to /bin/sh in a million years if I 
> hadn't read it in the archives. I also had to hunt through the raw text of 
> the mount manpage to figure out how to remount with write capability. 
> 
> I know I'm not the only one who has to rely on the list to find out things 
> like init=/bin/sh, and many of those who are running a non-unstable version 
> of Debian would most certaintly have to do the same. Granted, running sid 
> does require a fair amount of knowledge for when things go wrong (like where 
> to look for the man pages for instance) but ignorance of one of the billions 
> of myriad features of Debian does not invalidate someone's ability to run the 
> system, especially when it's something as stable as the login breaks 
> mysteriously.

the point was that unstable and testing are just that, unstable and
testing.  It is possible for things in unstable to be unstable.  The
reason why we have these is for the purpose of finding bugs like this
and others, that way when people install stable things like this should
not happen. Abusing someone for giving up there time to work on debian
is just not on!

> 
> That said, thanks to Sam for the quick fix.
> 
> - David Nusinow
>    krmt1984@ucla.edu
> 
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