Re: Bug#88588: libpam-modules: pam-limits.so is broken
<adam mckenna removed from the CC list: once they have no more quoted
text, it's usually a good sign to take them off the CC list...>
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Russell Coker wrote:
>
>The question of whether you have maintained any Open Source software is very
>relevant. People who are involved in Open Source software development know
>what it's like to work hard without pay and then get flamed by lamers who
>haven't got the ability to contribute.
Who the hell paid the users to rebuild their systems after your lilo
screwup thrashed them? That's the big problem with the "DD as martyr"
idea: NOBODY in the chain is getting treated any better.
>Recently I have been flamed in bug reports by a lamer who's email server
>refused responses (it was an anonymous user - it may even have been one of
>your aliases for all I know).
Why would I file bugs under two addresses?
>I have been flamed by a lamer from debian-user for asking questions there
>without being subscribed (I was told that I should contribute to Debian by
As well you should. Why should you get the benefits of -user without the
implicit costs? What good is a mailinglist to deal with problems if
others can't see what the solutions are? So who pays the -user people to
answer your questions to the exclusion of people who actually appreciate
their help and try to help others?
>answering questions on mailing lists - I explained that I am too busy
>developing Debian packages and upstream source to have time for debian-user
Then you should be able to fix your own damn problems if you're too good
to be bothered with the unwashed masses. Hell, ATM, I'd be happy with you
not causing them.
>and that IMHO people who don't do Open Source programming are not qualified
>to judge my contributions to Debian).
Now you're just being hypocritical. You make an entire post full of
judgements and yet say that others may not judge you. Well, tough.
>Also I find comments from people such as John Galt to be offensive as well as
>being stupid. They are offensive because arm-chair experts are always
I've always wanted to quote Suicidal Tendencies in a flame: "Did I offend
you? Well maybe you needed to be offended..."
>offensive to people who actually do things. They are stupid because this
>sort of shit is what drives developers to spend more time working for money
>and less time doing free work.
I find it highly offensive that you disparage the users to the point of
ignoring them, yet expect goodwill in return. You mentioned previously in
this thread that you regretted being the cause of one of my rants. I do
as well, for it somehow must've given you the impression that I actually
care what you think. Frankly, I really wonder how you could've become a
DD with such an obvious disregard for the users. I bandied about SC 4 and
said that my rant on Ben had relevance to his election as DPL because of
his forgetting where his priorities lay. Compared to you, he's a piker.
You see, Ben maintains a little package called glibc, yet STILL finds time
to answer questions on -user every so often.
>Sometimes saying things that are relevant is not good enough.
When you start, you may have a point.
>
--
Galt's sci-fi paradox: Stormtroopers versus Redshirts to the death.
Who is John Galt? galt@inconnu.isu.edu, that's who!
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