Re: Bug#88588: libpam-modules: pam-limits.so is broken
On Tuesday 06 March 2001 22:05, John Galt wrote:
> Sucking up to Branden? Or are you sucking up to Thomas Bushnell?
> Regardless of why you posted, you asked some questions, I guess I should
> answer. What I am WRT Debian is a long time user (~1996) who has gotten
> sick of the idea that the DD is more important than the package. The fact
> that you seem to think that the circumstances around what I say is more
> important than what I say is a perfect example of this. As far as
> credibility: I've stated this off list and on so often that it really
> should be a FAQ. Write me off at your own peril: sometimes I say things
> that are relevant. Often I'm the only one saying the relevant things
> precisely because I'm abrasive: others would say it, but don't because
> they don't want to hurt any feelings. My advice: hang around, you may
> learn something...(but take a valium first if you're susceptible to high
> blood pressure :)
The question of whether you have maintained any Open Source software is very
relevant. People who are involved in Open Source software development know
what it's like to work hard without pay and then get flamed by lamers who
haven't got the ability to contribute.
Recently I have been flamed in bug reports by a lamer who's email server
refused responses (it was an anonymous user - it may even have been one of
your aliases for all I know).
I have been flamed by a lamer from debian-user for asking questions there
without being subscribed (I was told that I should contribute to Debian by
answering questions on mailing lists - I explained that I am too busy
developing Debian packages and upstream source to have time for debian-user
and that IMHO people who don't do Open Source programming are not qualified
to judge my contributions to Debian).
Also I find comments from people such as John Galt to be offensive as well as
being stupid. They are offensive because arm-chair experts are always
offensive to people who actually do things. They are stupid because this
sort of shit is what drives developers to spend more time working for money
and less time doing free work.
Sometimes saying things that are relevant is not good enough.
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