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Re: NM frustrations...

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:46:07 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:02:47 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
>>On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 09:30:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:30:38 +0100, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
>>> > Please remember also that any your 
>>> >query about it on debian-devel may only increase your awaiting time for DAM
>>> >approval.
>>> Please explain this. It leaves too much place for interpretation.
>>It means that the DAM is anything but objective, and will arbitrarily
>>delay your approval if annoyed.
>Too bad. This does badly damage the project's reputation.

Debian is made up of only volunteers.  They donate time and effort.  If 
people annoy them, what reason do they have to continue to work?  Most 
people do volunteer work because they enjoy it, and if the work 
environment ceases to be enjoyable, they (obviously) have less 
initiative to work and may think about stopping etc.

The gist of this thread has been to follow the procedure and provide 
the info your DAM needs, and if that doesn't work, maybe see if another 
DAM could be assigned.  Or go to the NM list and ask what the problem 
is, or offer to help improve the process.

Please remember we're all volunteers and (re)act appropriately.

As far as Debian's reputation goes, I'd like to see some more detailed 
information on the 'badly damaged' reputation.  Among whom?  The 'want 
to be new maintainer' crowd?  I don't see this as affecting more than 

Debian's purpose is to put out a high quality Linux distro.  And 
despite all the flaws that Debian may have, we seem to accomplish it.  
If that's what you're interested in helping with, and there's an 
unresponsive DAM in the way, then IMO you're not trying very hard.  
There are many ways to help.  Hop on IRC and ask what you can work on, 
and I think you'll get more responses than you know what to do with.

</patriotic speech> :)


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