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Re: Open letter to Debian community



Most of the things have been beaten to death. That's the way it is
and it's unlikely to change.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:14:25AM +0500, Victor Vislobokov wrote:
>    First defect, IMHO is that Debian is very big. 

Dead horse. If it's an issue, make your own mini-Debian. It's very easy
to do so.

>    Today, Potato has many useless packages. I don't say, that they are not
> needed by everyone, no, not everyone, but for majority, Who needs baby
> shell?

Someone. There's no reason not to have it packaged as along as someone
is willing to maintain it.

>    And everything takes space! And games! Do many people play XBill?

I play XBill. 

>   I call leaders to revise principles of forming of the distribution. I
> want distribution so contain only needed things and only best things, not
> all possible. Distribution needs IRC client. Ok, it will be THE BEST
> irc client. Distribution needs games, ok! Let it contain games that are
> interesting not only for children from 6-10 years.

What is the best irc client? That's flamewar material. What should children
6-10 years old play, if you remove all their games?

>   Another disadavantage: I analized Potato from the point of russian user,
> that doesn't need packages that are not related to russian or english
> languages. I found, that I can drop 100Mb packages! 

Then do so. There's nothing stopping you or a Russian user group from making 
a mini-Debian. I'm sure there's a number of people who would be willing to
help make a 1 CD Debian for Russian speakers.

> You're right, but what prevents
> to divide Debian on international and national parts? 

It's a lot of work for little gain.

>   So, we could to have boot floppies and defauls settings for applications
> for needed language. 

We do have i18n boot floppies, at least in CVS.

>   Many people will disagree, and say that they don't worry about number
> of CDs Debian need. I don't complain, but for me it is hard to afford
> more then 2 CDs. 

Where are you buying your CDs? You can get Potato for less than $10 from
some of the CD places. If that's too much, you can buy just the first 
CD.

>    One another defect of Debian are release dates. Potato hit the record
> for release date. 

It's a dead horse.

> are very strange? What is it? It is one library, but of various versions.
> And this happens because dpkg cannot process existance of two various
> versions of came package.

That's a feature, not a bug. It's easier and less bug prone to make seperate 
packages for two library versions then to try and permit the installation
of two different versions of one package. 

-- 
David Starner - dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org
Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org



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