Re: cleaning up our task packages
Hi!
There are too many answers to the question "What I want to do?". So
there will be many task-packages. And I like that Debian has them. It
is difficult to know thousands packages, but it is not so difficult to
choose between less than 100 task packages.
On 7.XII.2000 at 9:23 Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 12:45:13AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > Maybe we need a way to define subtasks so we get output like:
> >
> > [ ] LDAP : LDAP libraries, server and clients
> > [ ] LDAP Devel : LDAP Development libraries
> > [ ] LDAP Server : LDAP Server
> > [ ] LDAP Tools : LDAP Utilities
> > [ ] LDAP Name Service : LDAP NSS and PAM for Name Service
That seams to be a nice solution. The problem is how to realise it.
I think there is no need to make subtasks. Let the task packages be
many, for example task-web-server-apache and task-web-server-roxen.
(I know that for these examples the question "what I want to do?" is
not appropriate, but how to choose between these different web servers?)
Then tasksel (and other user-friendly installers) can use categories
like "Natural language environment", "Internet server", "Development".
> > Makes much more sense. Tasksel could unfold only when asked to do so, like
> > when a user is really interested in the tasks specifics, or they want only
And this is similar to the installers of many popular big programs and
operating systems.
> is this really supposed to be in tasksel?
For example in tasksel.
> ok.. lets assume the question, 'what do i want to do?', 'i want to use
> ldap'.. before we get here user has to learn what ldap is, and most
> likely at that point he will know a name of the server he wants (or
> knows how to use apt-cache)
> once again, 'i want to use ldap based authentication'.. at this point
> there would be a admin present to set it up.. or if the user needs
> ldap authentication and wants to set it up.. there is no need for a
> task package on this.
I think that there is no need for any task package, but regardless of
that they are useful.
> the scene you are describing would just obsolete frontends for apt and
> dpkg.. it wouldn't have anything to do with tasksel..
No. apt frontends and dselect will see many task packages. I like to
install task packages with dselect. And I think that many task
packages are more useful especially for these installers. The
classification is for other kind of installers like tasksel.
Anton Zinoviev, <zinoviev@debian.org>
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