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Re: IPv6 adoption

Florian Lohoff wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 02:01:19AM +0300, Mika Liljeberg wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There are  340 282 366 920 938 463 463 374 607 431 768 211 456 IPv6
> > addresses. That's roughly 313 million addresses per every cubic
> > millimeter of Earth. Granted, the address space is sparse, but I
> > still think it's quite a lot.
> >
> > So what the heck are you guys talking about?
> Moores law and the ignorance people bring to the lesseons which
> we should have learned from the past.

Moore's law should be respected, but we just can't have a limitless
supply of everything. There are tradeoffs to everything.

> We NOW cant imagine of what use the IP Addresses are - AND
> We still havent switched to IPv6 as this process is REALLY
> painful. This will hopefully the LAST change of network
> protocols FOREVER - Once we have the 313 Million appliances
> per square mm dont even think of introducing ipv8

[begin nitpicking]
:-) Two minor points:
- It was 313 million per CUBIC millimeter, not square millimeter
- version 8 is already assigned, the next version would have to
  be something like IPv10

Unless you want to give bacteria IP addresses, the only thing
I can think of is nanotechnology. Frankly, I don't think
nanomachines would have any need to communicate globally with
each other, but no harm in playing with the thought... :-)
[end nitpicking]

> And BTW: The faster we get the more sparse we have to be in
> the IP Address ranges - Otherwise the technology can cope
> with the speeds of tomorrow.
> Remember - If the speed on the Last mile doubles its no problem
> to go from 8 to 16 Mbit/s - But image the increase of the bandwidths
> in the Backbone these clients are attached to. There will be no
> router which will go at multiterrabit per second with 4 Million
> routing table entrys ... Solution - Only route by the first byte - There
> you are - LARGE sparse blocks ...

Huh? We have been doing this since the dawn of IPv4! IPv6 changes
nothing in this respect.

> And yes - Every technical piece of equipment will be network attached.
> Watches, Cassett Recorders, Mobiles, Palms and why dont you do IP to
> your mouse and keyboard - Once you are there everybody needs 4-10 Class-Cs
> to get all the equipment addressable.

No argument there. There are plenty of IPv6 addresses for all that.

> The demand for network addresses will increase exponentially in the
> next 50 years and I will experience a shortage in IPv6 addresses
> in my lifetime (I am now 25).

While you're at it, mind giving me the scoop on the stock market?

Seriously, you're seeing the first section of an S curve. Exponential
growth doesn't go on forever. It tapers off when the environment is

> Flo



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