Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free
[with this message, I attempt to move the debate over to
debian-project. Please remove -devel from future messages in this
thread!]
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 03:42:27AM -0400, David Graham wrote:
> If the non-free software were entirely replaced by free software with the
> same functionality, then the non-free software will whither and die of its
> own accord. The fact that it continues to thrive demonstrates its
> usefulness, and forcing new users to only use free software may send them
> to other distributions, where they will be able to install a wider
> variety of software due to non-free being present.
Points like this have been made several times in the debate.
Let me just point out why they may not be valid:
The above paragraph appears to accept as given the following:
a) Free software is better than non-free software because it *works
better*. [long-term, specifically]
Is that the motivation for the existence of the debian project?
Or is it the following suggestion:
b) Free software is better than non-free software because it is
*morally better*.
?
It's up to you to decide. I became a debian member because I believed
(b). I also hope that (a) is true, although I'm not yet entirely
convinced by that. But I really believe (b).
Now, as it happens, I won't support this amendment. I believe that
the time is not yet ripe for this change. I believe that the time
/will be/ ripe, sometime, and I will support a similar amendment
then.
But I think that people should remember that Debian was created on a
moral stance, not a practical one.
Also, I don't believe that removing non-free from debian prevents
people from using non-free software. Alien still exists. Packages
can still be installed however upstream /expects/ you to install them
(which is rarely a package).
In the specific case of lyx, since I'm the lyx maintainer, if this
resolution passes I will distribute xforms debs from my personal
website until lyx goes totally free (very likely to be before the
release of woody).
Jules
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