On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 03:42:27AM -0400, David Graham wrote: > > Looking over this resolution, and the implications in it, I can't help but > feel we're taking a step back. We're taking a step away from where debian > needs to go. By closing debian to closed programmes, debian becomes > closed. Whether all software is GPL'd or MS-EULA'd, it doesn't matter. > Both restrict the system, and the further development for it. > > By purging non-free, we lose more then just software. We lose credibility. > Debian's moral "standards" will be so strong and exclusive, that the > group of users and developers for debian will become an old-men's club > much in the way FreeBSD has become. Why must debian shoot itself in the > foot? I agree with you Debian have to offer to all, all kind of software which can be debianaized. I belive in DFSG and FreeSoftware in general but we can't close our group only for puritanist of FreeSoftware. > If the non-free software were entirely replaced by free software with the > same functionality, then the non-free software will whither and die of its > own accord. The fact that it continues to thrive demonstrates its > usefulness, and forcing new users to only use free software may send them > to other distributions, where they will be able to install a wider > variety of software due to non-free being present. > > I do not believe that forcing users to rely on freshmeat for software that > debian considers 'immoral', as the last paragraph implies, will help > anyone. "There aren't immoral software but only immoral license" :-> Out the joke, I agree, we have to offer all kind of software, and if a person want only freesoftware will use main section software, the other wathever they want; but we have to offer them all of this > > Allow me, for a second, to draw a parallel with the Religious Right: > They exclude anyone who, they believe, is not 'pure'. They eliminate > those with slightly different perspectives, because they do not conform. > Their argument is much the same. They don't give back, they're immoral, > they don't have use for them. Heck they take up the prized front seats > of the church! > > That is the same attitude that this resolution reflects. If debian wants > to portray itself as an open system, then they'd best stay open to those > that don't conform. Beautifool > > --- > David "cdlu" Graham > canada@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca, canada@ishmael.geecs.org, dgraham@uoguelph.ca > GEECS.org administrator, CSClub.cis.uoguelph.ca administrator, frosh, BComp > This .signature is dynamically rebuilt 1440 times a day. > My mother loved children -- she would have given anything if I had been > one. > -- Groucho Marx > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org -- Maurizio Boriani General Services (InterNetWorking Staff) 20138 Milano - Via Mecenate 76/3 - Italy Tel. 02/509081 - Fax 02/50908080 - E-mail maurizio.boriani@gsol.it PGP key: 0xCC0FBF8F fingerprint => E429 A37C 5259 763C 9DEE FC8B 5D61 C796 CC0F BF8F <= fingerprint
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