You guys need to take this to debian-legal or some other list more appropriate. How are we supposed to get good developers hacking on Debian when they have to put up with these endless (and often pointless) flamewars? Speaking, obviously, for myself, -- David N. Welton, Responsabile Progetti Open Source, Linuxcare Italia spa tel +39.049.8043411 fax +39.049.8043412 cel +39.348.2879508 davidw@linuxcare.com, http://www.linuxcare.com/ Linuxcare. Support for the revolution.