Re: Scope of debian-jr project (was: Debian for kids)
Ben Armstrong wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> > Ben, all that is totally cool with me. I was really responding to
> > things that I had seen like suggestions about making the 'pwd' command
> > hard to get to; that is, things that relate directly to removing some
> > administration hassles at the cost of perhaps some flexibility. I was
> > thinking that if there was a lot of emphasis or work on that, that it
> > perhaps shouldn't be limited to a "kids" package, broadening the
> > benefit. More giving you something to think about, if you hadn't
> > already, than even anything as strong as a suggestion!
>
> Keith,
>
> Rest assured that new packages will continue to be modified & added under
> names that are suggestive of their purpose, not their target audience.
> The exception, of course, will be any "task-" packages that we create,
> which may bear names like:
>
> task-debian-ages-2-to-5
>
> which might contain packages likely to interest children in this age
> range. (Don't take this as gospel, as we haven't even decided if such
> a package is a good idea yet! But I can envision this as a possibility.)
>
> As for limiting access to passwd (not pwd, as that's something entirely
> different :) a number of excellent suggestions were made, some of which
> might find it into a "child's sys admin guide" as tips, rather than being
> codified into packages. These are specific problems that some sys admins
> may have while others may not, and are therefore at the discretion of
> the sys admin to implement on their own. I don't envision anything like
> that being a part of Debian proper. Frankly, I don't see limiting access
> to 'passwd' as being anything other than an issue when administering
> systems for children, but perhaps you have a particular incident in mind?
Libraries! I.e., children and others as well.
>
> Anyway, to bring us back to the main issue and away from implementation
> details (as the discussion around passwd was a very small example,
> tangential to the main focus of the project), we will make an effort to
> keep our development contributing back to Debian as a whole. Where there
> is overlap between a child's needs and other users' needs, I hope we can
> identify it readily and involve other people in the project outside or
> internal working group. At the same time, this group will necessarily
> focus on child-specific issues and not get dragged off too much solving
> problems that are best left to other subgroups or individual developers.
>
Absolutely. Understood.
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