Re: Proposal: Source file package format (summary)
> Here is a summary of the proposal for a common source file format:
> - Good idea!
> - Waste of time, Use configure; make; make install, Most packages are for Unix, not only Linux.
Who cares about Unix? the sooner Linux kills it the best.
> - Source management problems, no-one is interested in BOTH .rpms and .debs! What about experimental versions?
> - For experimental packages, use dselect to put a hold on the new version.
That applies only to Debian users and that is a minority
> - For debian, directory structure is important, not .dsc files.
> - Good suggestion, decision is up to the package author!!
> - How to ensure the .spec files are valid and functional?
By building them of course. Even an unvalid RPM is a good starting point.
> - Reducing incompatibility between the variants of the GNU/Linux OS'es is a useful job.
> - Hard to build good rpm's and deb's. Install to standard directories? What about FHS??
The standard is too lax now. For instance RedHat installs little in
/usr/X11R6 while other distribs tend to put in it everything who needs
X to work. That breaks compatibilty on #! scripts and at times on
binaries. Also there should be a common naming scheme for RPMs
between main distribs using RPM otherwise you get dependency problems.
Finally there should be an agreement on miniaml versions on libraries to
avoid incompatibility problems
> - GNU people participating in LSB work?
> - Debian is not GNU!?
> - After rms comments about LSB/GNU/Linux/... this thread turned into a flame war!! No more comments of technical nature any more. Sorry I thought it was an idea worth a better faith!!
> Binary formats:
> - Alien can be used, at least from .rpm to .deb
Other style too. But that does not mean it will be a good or even
working packahge (see above)
> - rpm format to be used for binary packages in LSB.
> People who replied:
> Iain Wade <email@example.com>
> George Toft <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Oliver Elphick <email@example.com>
> Adam C Powell IV <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> cyberclay <email@example.com>
> Richard Stallman <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Chris Siebenmann <email@example.com>
> Daniel Quinlan <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Flaming replies not included!!
> This mail has been written using GNU Emacs and VM. Wonderful software. What about gemacs,
> a gnomified version!?
Would be great.
> Happy New Millennium to everybody!
> Best regards,
This is the other Y2K bug. Next millenium starts january 2001 because
there was never a 0 year
Jean Francois Martinez
Project Independence: Linux for the Masses