I agree, the idea of cute little graphics showing up next to the start/stop of a package makes me ill just thinking about it. Even the Redhat 6.0 way with it's green "OK" or red "Failed" made me ill because it supressed the errors when something failed. Sure, it LOOKS nice for the enduser, but the boot sequence is where you NEED to see what's going on if you need to troubleshoot a problem on boot. Dave Bristel On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:59:38 -0700 > From: Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Modified start-stop-daemon and possible boot logo (was: Translation of init scripts) > Resent-Date: 14 Jul 1999 20:00:39 -0000 > Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; > > On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 01:35:51PM -0500, James Curbo wrote: > > > > This makes me think of an interesting extension of this idea. Just think > > if we could boot this way: > [..] > > | [Swirl here] | > [..] > > Booting Debian GNU/Linux... > > > > +----------------+ > > | keyboard pic | Loading default keymap...done. > > +----------------+ > > > > +----------------+ > > | pic of a card | Setting up ISAPNP devices...done. > > +----------------+ > > > > ... > > > > +----------------+ > > | Apache logo | Starting Apache...done. > > +----------------+ > > I started to reply to this and tell you that this idea is SICK and WRONG, > but then it crossed my mind that it or something like it might be possible > given a number of factors all of which have to be met. The first of which > is definitely going to have to be a framebuffer. The next is that it be > able to be shut off, a number of us prefer text where possible. > > > > and so on. Each package could have a logo that it would show on boot, of > > a standard size so as to line up the boot messages, and to make things > > prettier overall. The project's logo could be used (like Apache's) or a > > generic one (like the keyboard map loading) but either way it would be > > a very quick way to see what is going on. Of course this would have to be > > implemented with framebuffers (unless someone came up with a cool ASCII art > > way of doing it), a hacked start-stop-daemon, and a logo in every package > > that is going to have something in /etc/init.d/ (probably a change in > > policy would be required for that)... but it would be really cool to see > > your machine boot up this way :) > > Default for things which don't provide their own, and the init script > would have to do it not start-stop-daemon. > > -- > Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@debian.org> Debian GNU/Linux developer > GnuPG: 2048g/3F9C2A43 - 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 > PGP 2.6: 2048R/50BDA0ED - E8 D6 84 81 E3 A8 BB 77 8E E2 29 96 C9 44 5F BE > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am amazed that no-one's based a commercial distribution on Debian yet - > it is by far the most solid UNIX-like OS I've ever installed, and I've > played with HP/UX, Solaris, FreeBSD, BSDi, and SCO (not to mention OS/2, > Novell, Win95/NT) > -- Nathan Norman > >
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