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Re: calling Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> [OFF TOPIC]

On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 03:06:18AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> I think this is largely a confusion arising from the misapprehension
> that you got bitten by my use of DUL, whereas it was actually ORBS.
> Given that you are using your ISPs relay, you're doing everything you
> can to comply with current spam avoidance best practice, so it's now
> your ISPs job to get themselves of ORBS.

well said!

> I've only recently started using ORBS, so if it turns out that they
> have a tendency to list machines that don't actually have open relays,
> I'll drop it, so please ask polaris.net what they're doing about it,

i used ORBS briefly (at home, but not at work) some time ago and found
that it blocked too much legit mail. i stopped using them very quickly.

> The side effect is that if an ISPs server is running as an open relay,
> and they don't act to stop that, their customers will find that their
> mail may start to bounce.  That's really the ISPs responsibility IMO.



craig sanders

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