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Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)



My own reasons for wanting these updates in there is that we go frozen, and then
a major release comes out.  Suddenly, Debian may be more stable, but MAJOR
packages are out of date.  If we have the "updated" section available on the ftp
site, we can have these packages there for people to install, without ruining
the integrity of the stable release.  It also gives people a feeling of not
needing to wait for the next major release for new software.  Sure, once the new
version comes out, it wouldn't make sense to build for the OLD versions, but
potato isn't out.  Because of that, we shouldn't abandon those who run slink.
Note that if linus did that, the 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 would never have come out
because work had already begun on the 2.3 kernels.

							Dave Bristel


On Wed, 12 May 1999, Branden Robinson wrote:

> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:29:10 -0400
> From: Branden Robinson <branden@ecn.purdue.edu>
> To: David Bristel <targon@targonia.com>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Release Plans (1999-05-10)
> 
> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 02:06:24PM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
> > It seems to me that since there will always be patches and updates to packages
> > between releases, and since we have the "proposed" updates, perhaps we could
> > add an "updates" area, in addition to the non-free, contrib, and main sections.
> > This would work VERY nicely for users who want to grab the latest patches.  A
> > good example of why this would be good is the XFree 3.3.2 being released in
> > slink, and everyone wanting 3.3.3.
> 
> I am perfectly willing to package a version of XFree86 3.3.3.1 for slink
> (and thus built against glibc 2.0), if I can get assurance that these will
> be accepted.  Except for the Unix98 pty problem which just popped up with
> xterm, and some kind of strangeness with detecting a particular IBM RAMDAC
> chip in the I128 X server, reports appear to be that the potato 3.3.3.1
> packages are better than the 3.3.2.3 ones in slink in every respect.
> Namely, there are several packaging-level bugs that I have fixed in the
> potato version of X.  None of these are security matters, however, and that
> is typically the sole criterion upon which packages for stable-updates are
> judged.
> 
> I've been told that this is pretty much Christian Hudon's decision.
> Perhaps an exception could be made for X, given that it is so huge and
> onerous to download, and requires gargantuan amounts of space and time to
> build.  But my feelings won't be hurt if he decides against it.
> 
> In the meantime, Johnie Ingram has been making glibc 2.0 versions of my
> potato XFree86 packages available at <http://www.netgod.net/x/>.
> 
> -- 
> G. Branden Robinson              |        Yesterday upon the stair,
> Debian GNU/Linux                 |        I met a man who wasn't there.
> branden@ecn.purdue.edu           |        He wasn't there again today,
> cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ |        I think he's from the CIA.
> 

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