On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 06:21:12PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 11:09:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > * All good little Debianers are meant to help get the release out > > while we're in the freeze. We don't have to, but we > > should. We ought to be paying attention to CDs, and QA, and > > release-critical bugs and whatever else. If we're spending > > four months working on a freeze, for every two months spent > > actually *developing*, how are we going to get anything done? > Maybe if we didn't spend so much time between release cycles, people > wouldn't feel a need to upload problematic packages just before the > freeze and it wouldn't take four months to debug... Huh? That doesn't make sense for two reasons. First, if we don't spend much time between release cycles, the only times you can upload *anything* is during the freeze or "just before" it. Second, have a look through the remaining release-critical bugs. The majority are a bunch of irritating little things against packages that aren't related to major changes in anything and there are a few bugs, notably the boot-floppies ones that simply don't get worked on outside of the freeze, and just plain take a while to get right. If you're planning on saying "okay, we're in the slink freeze now, that means it's not long until the potato freeze -- anyone who needs to do major development had better start now", which seems the only way to avoid the former problem, you're going to have less people caring about fixing release critical bugs, which will make freezes take yet longer. I've been through two freezes now, that have both taken way longer than we thought. Three months compared to one, and three and half months and counting. Forgive me if I don't believe that this'll just magically improve in the future. And, personally, I'd be happier taking four months to release something that had real improvements, rather than just another incremental release. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <firstname.lastname@example.org> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. PGP encrypted mail preferred. ``Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem.''
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