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Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs



I don't really want to get into this, I've got enough people mad at me
for filing some bug reports, but I think this needs to be said, anyways.
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:54:02AM +0200, Hartmut Koptein wrote:
> 
> > But you're missing my point. Why does a binary-only NMU give you the right
> > to skip waiting, while a normal NMU does not? Why are they different? Why
> > does one let you circumvent the rules, for however noble a purpose?
> > 
> > Binary-only and normal NMU's are the same thing, and if you can do a
> > binary-only NMU w/o waiting, you should be able to do a normal NMU w/o
> > waiting. And if you can do that, it follows you should, since a normal NMU
> > is better.
> 
> 
> How will you feal, if i get one of your packages, make necessary patches for
> kernel-2.1 and glibc-2.1 and egcs to it and upload the package _with_
> source (without asking you for permission) to master. And then you notice
> that this new source-package is broken on your system?

There is a reason libc's have version #defs, and that gcc and alike have
version #defs, and *gasps* kernels too..

Basicly, use #if and #ifdef, if your changes blindly assume a arch then
your no better then the programmers who assume ix86, if not worse
because you KNOW how important the issues are..

> 
> binary-only MNU hits only one arch
> normal NMU hits possible all archs 

A binary-only MNU violates the GPL, end of story.

> 
> Another story:
> 
> I patched a debian binary in february, forwarded the patch directly to the
> maintainer (not to the BTS) and uploaded this package as a binary-only
> MNU. This package (with the patch) is always not yet available, because
> the maintainer is very busy to make a new release. This is more then a
> 1/2 year !

This is why you should include source with the NMU!!!

Zephaniah E, Hull.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
>       Hartmut
> 
> PS: we talk no about two or three packages, porters means 100 or 200 packages :-)
> 
> 
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> 
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