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Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs



[ Moving this to debian-devel, discussion doesn't belong in the bug report. ]

James Troup wrote:
> There is no i386 port in as much as i386 maintainers 99.5% of the time
> _don't_ compile packages from scratch, which is when over 50% of the
> problems (at least on m68k, and judging by the diff's I've seen from
> Paul, similar-ish on alpha) show up.

I don't get it. How do people upload a new version of a package w/o
compiling it from scratch?

> FWIW, I don't like binary-only NMUs either as they do mean duplication
> as each port fixes the same (usually lame) packaging bug, but I
> realise their necessity (what Paul says is true; if we waited for
> source maintainers to integrate fixes, we would get nowhere very
> fast).

I seem to be hearing the argument that binary-only NMU's can be made without
waiting, while a normal NMU requires that you wait for the maintainer to
have a reasonable time to do something about a bug report. I don't
understand why this would be so. Why are binary-only NMU's special?

Seems to me like they're both just NMU's, and that binary-only NMU's are not
as good as normal NMU's because they don't make it easy to share fixes
between architectures, so I don't see why they should be made at all. [1]

-- 
see shy jo

[1] I recognize the value of binary-only NMU's when a new port is being
    started and you can't afford to wait on the maintainer, and you may need
    to make a lot of changes, and your build environment may be non-standard. 
    But as a port matures, their value decreses. I think porters are mostly
    making binary-only NMU's now out of tradition.


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