Dan Hrabarchuk writes: > Log in as root and give it a try. Yes. > It looks like pppd is not setuid root. More likely he has not yet put his user in the 'dip' group. -- John Hasler This posting is in the public domain. email@example.com Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.