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On Wed Sep 9 02:57:58 1998, Kari E. Hurtta wrote,
> > Sorry to bother you again about Elm. The below was sent to the Debian
> > developers list. We are a bit concerned about it -- the
> > /usr/doc/elm-me+/copyright file that he mentions comes from the NOTICE
> > file. I am observing that at the end it says it is in the "public
> > trust", but we are unsure of exactly what that means. A clarification
> > would be appreciated.
Elm is copywritten by the Usenet Community Trust, a public corporation that
holds the rights for the software and enforces the license. Its job is to
ensure that the software is not 'misused'.
>
> It comes from original Elm 2.4. Perhaps authors of it can be clarify?
>
> / Kari Hurtta
> hurtta+elm@ozone.FMI.FI
>
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> > To: Debian Development <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
> > Subject: Copyright problem with ELM-ME+
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> > I'm slightly confused by the elm copyright as distributed in
> > /usr/doc/elm-me+/copyright. I have extracted the newmail program
> > since it is some sort of useful and I don't want to install elm on the
> > machines. The "problem" is that am I allowed to re-distribute it as
> > Debian package or not?
> >
> > This is what /usr/doc/elm-me+/copyright says:
> >
> > 1. You may, without additional permission from the authors, distribute
> > Elm or components of Elm, with or without additions developed by
> > you or by others at no charge. You may also distribute Elm along
> > with any other product for sale, provided that the cost of the
> > bundled package is the same regardless of whether Elm is included,
> > and provided that those interested only in Elm must be notified
> > that it is a product freely available from the Elm Development Group.
ok, reiterating, if 'debian' is free, or debian is the same cost with 'newmail'
as without 'newmail', you are not in violation of the agreement. But you must
include, in a notice, readme file, or some other doc, that the entire elm
source is available, for free, and give them a 'pointer' on how to find out
where to get it.
> >
> > [..]
> >
> > NOTE that it is not permitted to copy, sublicense, distribute or transfer any
> > of the Elm software except as expressly indicated herein. Any attempts to
> > do otherwise will be considered a violation of this license and your rights
> > to the Elm software will be voided.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joey
> >
> > --
> > VFS: no free i-nodes, contact Linus -- finlandia, Feb '94
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