Re: [RFC] Exim as standard Debian MTA?
On Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 12:38:28AM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > This is not windows. I would expect to see a SMTP server on
> > any UNIX installation. The novice can still ttally ignore the server
> > and use netscape, but we should make it easier for them to learn (why
> > would a novice try to use Linux, unless they were willing to learn?)
> learning is why people want to use linux. but step by step and not 0 to 100.
> debian is a 0 to 100 system, for example you can't install many programs
> without answering configuration questions. to learn what the program is and
> how it works, you would need to read the manual first, what you can not do
> without first answering question. this is hard for learners.
> you also expect some mail client like elm, mutt, emacs, gnus or whatever on
> any unix installation. and these require an MTA, so you get one. you also
> expect cron on every unix installation, and cron will require an mta, so you
> get one.
> but debian isn't about what you think a unix should have. that way linux will
> never get to the desktop, because you are not used to work with desktop
> machines, rather unix workstations.
Policy change anyone ?
Important programs, including those which one would expect to
find on any Unix-like system. If the expectation is that an
experienced Unix person who found it missing would say `What the
F*!@<+ is going on, where is foo', it should be in `important'.
This is an important criterion because we are trying to produce,
amongst other things, a free Unix. Other packages without which
the system will not run well or be usable should also be here.
This does *not* include Emacs or X11 or TeX or any other large
applications. The `important' packages are just a bare minimum of
commonly-expected and necessary tools.
So Debian is about Unix according to Policy.
Christian Meder, email: email@example.com
What's the railroad to me ?
I never go to see
Where it ends.
It fills a few hollows,
And makes banks for the swallows,
It sets the sand a-blowing,
And the blackberries a-growing.
(Henry David Thoreau)