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Re: elvis package



On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 09:11:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Martin Schulze <joey@kuolema.Infodrom.North.DE> wrote:
> > Elvis is non-free and the author ignores all mail coming from us,
> > both copyright mails as well as bugreports and fixes.
> 
> Er... then why isn't it in non-free?  Also, why is it our highest
> preference editor?

It was in former times.  From the time it went f*cking colourful
I abandoned it and switched to vim with which I'm quite happy.

Elvis wasn't in non-free because unresolved problems with the
upstream author, the debian maintainer got tired at no reaction.
At the end he has orphaned it.  It was removed from hamm/main
by our release engeneer - which IMHO was correct.

> Also, what aspect of the copyright notice puts it in non-free?

See Bug#14953.

> [The only thing I can guess is the "500 lines for your own project"
> thing, which is wierd, but clearly doesn't apply to modified copies of
> elvis which have been marked as modified]

indeed.

> This package was debianized by Erik Andersen andersee@debian.org on
> Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:14:13 -0700.
> 
> It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.cs.pdx.edu/pub/elvis/
> 
> Copyright:
> 
> Elvis 2.1 Copyright 1996 by Steve Kirkendall
> 
> Elvis 2.1 is copyrighted freeware.  It is provided in the hope that it will
> be useful, but with no warranty.
> 
> You can distribute copies of it in either source form or binary form,
> provided my copyright notice remains intact.  If you distribute *MODIFIED*
> versions, please mark them as being modified.
> 
> You can use portions of elvis source code in your own projects.  If you use
> fewer than 500 lines, then no special permission is required.  For 500 or 
> more lines, please obtain permission from the author at kirkenda@cs.pdx.edu;
> in general, such permission will be granted without compensation.

This fails #3 and #7 of the DFSG.  (Bug#14953 from 16 Nov 1997)

Regards,

	Joey

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