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Re: Link to Japanese Debian?



On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Jim Pick wrote:

> 
> [ thread was originally on debian-www ]
> 
> > From: Jim Pick <jim@jimpick.com>
> > Subject: Re: Link to Japanese Debian? 
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:03:12 -0700
> > 
> > > > > I couldn't find a link on our website to the Japanese Debian project:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.debian.linux.or.jp/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or did I just miss it?
> > > 
> > > Tim Sailer wrote:
> > > > www.jp.debin.org
> > > 
> > > No.  That's just a mirror site of the main Debian pages.  The
> > > site I listed is the project for the Japanese-specific packages.
> > 
> > There is no link to http://www.debian.linux.or.jp/ 
> > from http://www.debian.org/.
> > # www.debian.linux.or.jp will move to www.debian.or.jp in the near future.
> > 
> > > I was quite impressed by what they've done.
> > Thanks ;-)
> > 
> > Incidentally, we have something to ask.
> > We've developed over 100 packages (Japanesized versions), so
> > we'd like to contribute these to the official Debian distribution. 
> > (Unfortunately, almost all of these packages is now developed 
> >  for bo, not for hamm.  we are going to hamm.)
> > We don't know what is the best way to do it.
> > Is it possible to upload these packages by proxy,
> > or should developers upload directly to master?
> > Which mailing-list is the best to ask these question?
> 
> I'll cc: this to debian-devel, since most of the developers
> are there - and it's a public list.
> 
> I'm not sure what the official Debian policy on Internationalization
> is - other than the fact that there are several efforts underway.
> 
> Some questions I have:
> 
>  - are we going to have one main distribution, with supplemental
>    distributions for each language?  Or is it desirable to put 
>    everything into one gigantic multi-lingual distribution.

I personally don't think a giga dist. is a good thing.  But we do need to
do something about differen't programs.  I guess we can asume english will
be the base language cause it's the most common, especially in regard to
computers.  However, it probably be good to have mini-internation dists
for each seperate country.  such that CD companies in japan can sell A
debian CD and it will contain all the japanese stuff.

> 
>  - how do we deal with users (and developers) who do not speak
>    English?  I noticed that Debian-JP already has a separate
>    bug system.  This impacts the work Klee Dienes is doing on
>    maintainer verification and dpkg enhancements too.  

Maybe the Debian-JP should forward the bug reports up to the main site in
English?  Don't know if this is always feasable or fair to them?

> 
>  - I noticed that the Debian-JP distribution has i18n'd versions
>    of dpkg and other utilities.  How can we minimize the work
>    involved in keeping the translations and the software
>    up-to-date and in-sync?  I noticed that the "main" version
>    of the dpkg package has translations for English and French
>    in it -- but the Japanese i18n stuff isn't there.

This IMO should be their responsibility to get integrated with dpkg.  Does
Klee even know their version exists?

Just my 2 yen, :)

Shaya


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