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Re: MSDOS name conversion

"brian (b.c.) white" <bcwhite@bnr.ca)  wrote on 13.02.96 in <"3094 Tue Feb 13 17:09:55 1996"@bnr.ca>>:

> >The longer I read this thread, the more I get convinced that we should
> >simply stop having gigantic, unsplit packages in Debian. There's not
> >really any benefit in having them, and there is obvious benefit in having
> >split packages.

> See my previous comments about running "split" after the FTP is done, and
> the algorithm to pack floppies efficiently.

I already had seen it. It didn't convince me.

> >Nice. Now do the same under MS-DOS. That's the sort of system I did my
> >first FTPs from, several years ago. Fortunately, I had room. If I hadn't
> I could.  The FTP protocol is quite simple.  Splitting after download is
> easier, though.

Umm ... you may have forgotten that under MS-DOS, there is no standard TCP/ 
IP stack. Instead, there are several completely incompatible ones, and  
most have no public documentation.

I don't believe you could.

> Really?  No where is there "split" for OS/2?  Are you sure?  I'll bet there

Nowhere in the system.

> is pkzip for OS/2 and it should handle splitting across floppies.  Of

It might, though I don't have it (I'm not even sure it exists). I have the  
Info-Zip, and if it can do that, I stll have to find out how. And I have  
yet to find a need for splitting.

And anyway, you're now talking third party software. Do *you* want to make  
sure a program to do this for every possible operating system a downloader  
could have is somewhere on the Debian ftp archive, some of which will  
undoubtably not be free software?

> Why is a simple DOS program that splits FTP'd package files optimally among
> many floppies a *lot* worse?  Why is it worse at all?

Don't forget the impossible task of splitting them during receive.

It's a lot worse because it puts a lot of work on a lot of people, many of  
whom probably aren't very good at that stuff in the first place, instead  
of putting only very little work on very few people.

MfG Kai

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