[Note: CCing debian-devel-spanish as some other developers might probably be affected by this too] Hi there, For quite some time (around a month) I've been having problems reaching gluck.debian.org from my DSL line. This is starting to be an issue regarding making some changes in stuff I keep up with (for example, updating documents of the DDP like the Securing Debian Manual) I thought the issue would go away, but it hasn't. Unfortunately, it seems to affect a major telecommunications provider in Spain (Telefonica) which also servers as provider for many minor ISPs (like Terra-Lycos, YAcom) providers of DSL lines or modem connectivity. This issue does not seem to be related to an issue on their side, however, but more to routing problems across the atlantic. Curiously, this reachability problem does not affect people outgoing from the Spanish universities, which seem to go through different AS/Network providers and reach gluck just fine. Attached is a traceroute from both Telefonica and from a Spanish university, as you can see, the Telefonica trace goes from Telefonica's Network (Spain) to Level 3 Communications (US) and then to France Telecom's Opentransit backbone (France). Packets black hole in France after going through the Atlantic and back. Also attached is a traceroute from Rediris (the Spanish universities network) which goes from there to Global Crossing, Sprint and then HP, reaching Gluck just fine. I would appreciate if you could contact the people at HP so they could solve that issue with the other network providers. Thanks Javier
Script started on lun 03 may 2004 00:06:37 CEST jfs@silicio:~$ traceroute gluck.debian.org traceroute to www.debian.org (195.25.206.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 privadas.nuria.telefonica-data.net (192.168.0.201) 1.303 ms 0.869 ms 0.785 ms 2 privadas.nuria.telefonica-data.net (10.6.192.65) 50.484 ms 54.283 ms 53.914 ms 3 83.Red-80-58-1.pooles.rima-tde.net (80.58.1.83) 55.270 ms 52.313 ms 52.922 ms 4 70.Red-80-58-72.pooles.rima-tde.net (80.58.72.70) 54.975 ms 57.137 ms 56.798 ms 5 * * * 6 GE4-1-0-0-grtmadpe1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.50.145) 54.817 ms 52.314 ms 55.862 ms 7 So7-0-0-0-grtparix1.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.146) 79.794 ms 80.294 ms 79.092 ms 8 213.140.37.190 (213.140.37.190) 162.976 ms 160.981 ms 161.791 ms 9 67.29.172.17 (67.29.172.17) 158.931 ms 159.597 ms 158.644 ms 10 so-2-1-0.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net (209.244.11.13) 159.333 ms 160.200 ms 159.122 ms 11 as-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.85) 168.612 ms 167.818 ms 164.963 ms 12 64.159.17.102 (64.159.17.102) 164.337 ms 164.144 ms 164.877 ms 13 NYKBB1.New-york.opentransit.net (209.244.160.146) 159.028 ms 160.430 ms 159.052 ms 14 P14-0.NYKCR3.New-york.opentransit.net (193.251.241.22) 161.625 ms 158.961 ms 162.910 ms 15 P4-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.241.133) 167.068 ms 157.914 ms 159.212 ms 16 pos6-0.ntsta202.Paris.francetelecom.net (193.251.126.157) 158.737 ms 159.282 ms 158.908 ms 17 pos6-0.ntsta302.Paris.francetelecom.net (193.252.161.58) 159.017 ms 160.565 ms 157.026 ms 18 193.252.103.53 (193.252.103.53) 160.688 ms 160.061 ms 158.789 ms 19 194.51.173.250 (194.51.173.250) 162.143 ms 158.443 ms 158.998 ms 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * jfs@silicio:~$ traceroute -n gluck.debian.org traceroute to www.debian.org (195.25.206.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 192.168.0.201 2.316 ms 1.594 ms 0.874 ms 2 10.6.192.65 54.799 ms 56.558 ms 52.824 ms 3 80.58.1.83 54.882 ms 53.855 ms 52.825 ms 4 80.58.72.70 56.898 ms 57.948 ms 52.894 ms 5 * * * 6 213.140.50.145 55.838 ms 60.768 ms 52.627 ms 7 213.140.36.146 76.753 ms 79.221 ms 76.045 ms 8 213.140.37.190 159.495 ms 158.038 ms 162.115 ms 9 67.29.172.17 160.634 ms 167.002 ms 159.218 ms 10 209.244.11.13 160.472 ms 167.107 ms 158.784 ms 11 64.159.1.85 167.344 ms 167.527 ms 168.678 ms 12 64.159.17.102 167.674 ms 168.251 ms 165.349 ms 13 209.244.160.146 158.803 ms 158.296 ms 168.536 ms 14 193.251.241.22 159.203 ms 158.709 ms 158.931 ms 15 193.251.241.133 159.147 ms 158.652 ms 159.009 ms 16 193.251.126.157 161.292 ms 161.505 ms 158.624 ms 17 193.252.161.58 163.588 ms 159.544 ms 158.858 ms 18 193.252.103.53 161.505 ms 163.326 ms 163.997 ms 19 194.51.173.250 162.353 ms 161.621 ms 162.773 ms 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * jfs@silicio:~$ Script done on lun 03 may 2004 00:14:32 CEST
1 azrael (192.168.44.47) 0.800 ms 0.493 ms 0.511 ms 2 router-etsit.etsit.upm.es (138.100.17.65) 2.132 ms 1.094 ms 1.104 ms 3 138.100.254.13 (138.100.254.13) 1.369 ms 1.325 ms 1.308 ms 4 GE6-0-0.EB-Madrid0.red.rediris.es (130.206.206.1) 1.449 ms 1.397 ms 1.427 ms 5 MAD.SO5-1-0.EB-IRIS2.red.rediris.es (130.206.240.133) 1.418 ms 1.386 ms 1.434 ms 6 RI.SO0-0-0.EB-IRIS5.red.rediris.es (130.206.240.126) 1.601 ms 1.578 ms 1.603 ms 7 so-0-3-0.ar1.mad1.gblx.net (64.214.70.33) 1.841 ms 1.756 ms 1.806 ms 8 pos6-0-2488M.cr1.CDG2.gblx.net (67.17.65.125) 26.565 ms 24.678 ms 23.173 ms 9 pos1-0-2488M.cr1.NYC1.gblx.net (67.17.64.134) 97.740 ms 97.694 ms 103.596 ms 10 so5-0-0-2488M.ar2.NYC1.gblx.net (67.17.64.150) 98.070 ms 98.340 ms 98.716 ms 11 208.51.134.26 (208.51.134.26) 103.347 ms 103.292 ms 103.459 ms 12 sl-bb21-atl-11-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.69) 125.272 ms 124.076 ms 124.143 ms 13 sl-bb22-atl-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.150) 121.128 ms 121.313 ms 120.357 ms 14 sl-gw11-atl-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.86) 125.158 ms 124.853 ms 124.816 ms 15 sl-hp1-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.208.86) 121.404 ms 121.094 ms 121.095 ms 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 ftcgwb01-p7-1.americas.hp.net (15.227.138.6) 175.628 ms 175.274 ms 175.157 ms 19 * * * 20 gluck.debian.org (192.25.206.10) 179.023 ms 179.446 ms 179.014 ms
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