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Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9



Vincent Lejeune escrebeu:
> Le 3 mai 2015 01:36, "Ansgar Burchardt" <ansgar@debian.org> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi Vincent,
> >
> > your comparison with Mario Kart as a family-friendly game and just
> > having looked a bit at the PEGI rating system[1] made me wonder:
> >
> >   [1] <http://www.pegi.info/en/index/id/33/>
> >
> > Most Super Mario and Mario Kart games seem to have a PEGI 3 and a few
> > PEGI 7.
> >
> > The description for PEGI 12 includes games that "show nudity of a
> > slightly more graphic nature" (though I have not yet found a description
> > of what this means in more detail).
> >
> > So a game without Sara might be rated the same as Mario Kart,
> > i.e. targeting users 3+ or 7+. But adding Sara might change the rating
> > to PEGI 12 (maybe, I don't know the actual criteria), changing the
> > target audience.
> >
> > Do you think the conflict might be caused by the developers not minding
> > targeting only the 12+ group, but you (and others) prefering a game that
> > is also suitable for the 3+/7+ group?
> >
> > If this is the case, maybe we could try to continue the discussion based
> > on that and avoid the heavily loaded sexism bit? There might be options
> > like a "12+ content" checkbox or such as a first idea along these lines.
> >
> > Ansgar
> 
> It's a good idea actually. The PEGI rating system has a rating system
> that is adopted by several countries with different sensibilities and
> thus is a satisfying middle ground for me.
> Thanks for bringing this idea.
>

I agree. It is indeed a good idea and that can help addressing the
issues related with targetting the game at kids. Thanks for the idea,
Ansgar. Let me know if I can help in implementing or testing that.

Meanwhile, the rating approach do not solve the problem of sexism for
this particular game in Debian. Fortunately, the description of the
patches provided by Vincent offer a way to neutralize the problem,
solving the addressed concerns, without touching the main story-line
of the game.

Is there any alternative patch that might be considered, or are we ready
to propose those patches for the judgement of the Debian maintainer?

Those still wanting to enjoy the contentious features will surely find
the way to freely opt-in.
 
> Regards,
> Vincent
> 
> 
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