On 25.02.2014 02:22, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 01:42:30AM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: [...] I have already given some answers in my last e-mail, so I try to avoid to repeat them again. > Debian doesn't trust upstream sites to stay around. Therefore we copy > their tarballs to our own mirrors. The argument that it saves so much > space would work just as well for any non-art orig tarball, but that's > not how we do it. I was speaking about really large source tarballs, several hundreds of megabyte and not the casual mini game. See also the data.debian.org discussion. [...] >> I think as long as the resulting image is freely licensed and in a >> modifiable form and the rest of Naev is also free software, we should >> find a compromise to allow users to enjoy the game, to work with the >> sources and to give them a chance to resolve the remaining issues. > > Non-free is the name of that compromise. As long as we haven't solved > the issues, the game is not free and doesn't belong in main. You're > suggesting that you're doing people who chose not to install non-free > software a favor by letting them play this game anyway. But in fact you > aren't: if they would like that, they would have non-free in their > sources.list. In case of Naev we seem to have a problem with one single png file. I think this issue can be resolved by using common sense without putting the stigma of non-freeness on the whole project. > Keeping *all* non-free software out of main is actually a great feature > of Debian. I think you don't appreciate that feature, which is fine. And here I think it is time to quit the conversation. If you are not willing to hold a frank and reasonable discussion, then it is pointless to continue the conversation. You do not seem to differentiate between various issues, however I do. Markus
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