Re: Newer vegastrike : can we package that big ?

["Alexander Schmehl" <tolimar@debian.org>]

Hi!


Am 14.4.2008 schrieb "Joerg Jaspert" <joerg@debian.org>:

>>>   The problem is, the final tarball weights 500MB, with an installed
>>>  size of nearly 1GB, which is twice as big as the biggest package
>>>  currently in the archive. The current vegastrike-data weights 310MB
>>>  installed-size, 157MB debian package (plus 70MB for vegastrike-music).
>*shudder* Thats insanely huge.

Keep in mind, that we have several other quite huge -data packages as
well (nexuiz for example; IIRC eight of the top 10 packages in size are
games).


>>>   What shall I do ? Can we distribute such as huge game ? We have
>>>  several options:
>Technically we can. Practically - oh well. Its a huge load on the
>mirrors, both,  diskspace and bandwidth, which I'm not sure is ok to
>give them.

I allready heard several times by some people mirroring Debian as well as
 on the debian-cd list, that we are reaching limits.


>Especially looking at popcon, which only lists 206 installed, 12
>recent for vegastrike-data, 161/12 for vegastrike.

One should mention, that vergastrike hasn't been in in a stable release
for some time (and isn't in testing, too).  I would guess that the
number of installations would increase in nearer future.


>> Ftpmasters, what is your opinion about such huge packages?
>*My* favorite would be a seperate archive, either data.debian.net or
>games.debian.net. Where data would be for all packages that are huge
>with an (expected) low userbase while games would be pretty specific.[1]
>I would even help in running that archive, but only if others also join,
>don't want to do it alone.

That would be my favourite solution, too.  I would like too see minimal
data packages in Debian and those big chunks in a sepperate repository. 
I think I could sponsor hosting for that.

For long term that would mean to move some of the other -data packages
there, too.

Yours sincerely,
   Alexander

PS:  Won't have time to work on this for at least two weeks, so if
anyone else would like to step in...

Yours sincerely,
  Alexander