On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:20:41PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 07:57:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > > That's more or less what I was hoping - however, checking > > > /usr/share/doc/fortune-mod doesn't show any references to 'language', or > > > any obvious references to i18n or l10n, at least on stable (my chroots are > > > currently down due to one machine having some severe stability problems). > > > Is this just a more-recent-than-stable development? > > Yes. Try testing and for instance fortunes-de which places the German > > cookies at the right place. > > > > That's far from being proper i18n, unless I understand it wrong i18n in > fortunes just means placing new dat files under /usr/share/games/fortunes. > That does not give any tools at all for translators to _translate_ > fortunes, it's esentially a mechanism to show fortunes in different > languages with _different_ (and usually localised) content. > > If you want to have a fortune-based mechanism for debian tips you should > make sure you can give translators tools to translate the tips in your > package and give fortune a way to use the i18n properly. That is gettext, > and there is no gettext support in fortune as far as I see it. I principle, I agree. In practice, I'm likely to take what I can get, for now, and work on improving the situation in the long-term. > Otherwise you might get to create tips, have them translated and, in the > long run, users will see _outdated_ (or incomplete) tips because there are > no proper mechanisms (i.e. msgmerge) for translators to notice you updated > the the tips or added new ones. More likely, "(This tip has not yet been translated) <english text>", unless theres a very good reason to use the older tip, in which case it would be tagged as such. > Just my 2c. > > Regards > > Javi > > PS: I'm not sure how "tip of the day" is handled in KDE (kti) or GNOME > (which program handles those?), maybe you could take a look (and talk) with > the upstream authors to know how are they handled, Gimp and Gnuchas also > seems to do properly it as far as I see.. Was discussed on -devel a while back; the view was, more or less, that a fortune-data file was the most portable and straightforward way to deal with it, for now, and that we can/should integrate it with other things as folks figure out how. -- Joel Baker <fenton@debian.org>
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