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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?



>>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> writes:

 Matt> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> >>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> writes:
 >> 
 >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> >> and if I can change social norms of conduct so that I would nto be
 >> >> hurt in the future?

 Matt>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
 Matt> To rely on gracious behaviour from other organisms is a losing evolutionary
 Matt> strategy, and to attempt to avoid bruised feelings by inducing change in
 Matt> social norms is a doomed proposition.
 >> 
 >> Where did I ever say that I depended on politeness from
 >> others? Or that I expected a change?

 Matt> Up there.

	You should really learn how to read. Having a goal does not
 imply one depends on succeeding. The journey is often worth it even
 if you do not depend on having attaining the goal.

 >> The Bhagavata Geeta says that our actions (karma) should be according to
 >> what is right (dharama), and let the fruits and consequences of the karma
 >> fall where they will. 

 Matt> That may be, but I don't see what that has to do with the sentiment that you
 Matt> have expressed.   _You_ said "Perhaps[...]if I can change social norms of
 Matt> conduct so that I would nto[sic] be hurt in the future?" as justification
 Matt> for your earlier statements.

	Yes, it would be nice if we learned to not ridicule people on
 this mailing list. Am I dependent on functioning, waiting with bated
 breath for it to happen? hell no.

	Eradicating poverty and world peace are worthy goals too. Are
 we all dependent on that, and shall wither away if that does not
 happen? 

 Matt> This certainly sounds to me like your goal was to change others' conduct so
 Matt> that you would not be hurt in the future.

	Goal. Goal. Use a dictionary. Having a goal does not imply a
 dependence. 

	manoj

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