Re: Fwd: Debian objectives for lenny ... desktop
Qui, 2007-01-11 às 22:27 +0100, Michael Banck escreveu:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:21:01PM +0000, LUIS MATOS wrote:
> > we can go one way or another. The one we choose, we will
> > mass fill bug reports as RC in order to achieve it.
> > I think we have some point in having the desktop
> > discussion centralized here, so the people that has
> > something to say can say it here. The decisions made by
> > debian-desktop (list) are release decisions. I think we
> > can think like this regarding desktop.
> No, we can't. Unless "Splash screen must have a consistent artwork" is
> a release goal approved by the release managers, those bugs are not RC.
> And personally, I don't think that should be a release goal, as this is
> not how Debian works. Usually, somebody (either the maintainer or
> somebody else) does the work and if things are not getting moved
> forward, people are nudged. Making things RC seldom helps.
i think having a GOOD desktop should be a release goal. This list/group
can propose it do the RM's. Enterprise Desktop is a Must if debian wants
to keep really alive and increase it's user base.
He need to focus on getting the maintainers help.
> > >> - seek for group work application's compatibility out
> > >>of the box.
> > >
> > >Can you elaborate on this?
> > I hope that by the time we ship lenny, there will be a
> > release of an outstanding workgroup application server:
> > Hula.
> > We (well ... i'm +/- in there too) are taking over it's
> > control from novell and just waiting for them to lay the
> > project's content to us. The comunity around hula is hudge
> > and there are many developers waiting to lay their hands
> > on it.
> Interesting. Let's see how this works out.
> Maybe this "enterprise desktop" would rather merit a custom debian
> distribution, integrating things like samba, hula etc. into something
> nice sounds like out of scope to a regular task to me.
i think a task is just installing particular packages that provide
Suse SLES uses, for example, possibility to integrate to an LDAP server.
Debian achieves the same just depending on libpam-ldap (which settings
can be preseeded).
So, creating this enterprise desktop task would improve the adoption of
debian in enterprise's desktop where i think debian is a good option,
but, it lacks out of the box implementation. So people just install
ubuntu (that has graphical/user improvements).
If we make this our release goal we can gain a "market" share that no
distribution has (there is only SLES and RHEL for enterprise oriented