Re: desktop task: package list
Sáb, 2006-11-25 às 19:37 -0200, Gustavo Franco escreveu:
> On 11/25/06, Luis Matos <gass@otiliamatos.ath.cx> wrote:
> > hello there
> >
> > talking about the gnome desktop task ( don't know about other
> > environments) and the packages that should go along.
> >
> > i want to propose a minimal (or "normal") desktop task and a full
> > functional desktop task.
>
> Actually we've the 'desktop' task for this and the recent added 'xfce'
> to act as lightweight desktop options.
ok, i understand your point ... in tasksel you can choose desktop, but
witch one is installed, does it appear all options?
i thought that a desktop task was shown and installed kde minimal and
gnome minimal. And then, another task installed, for example, a gnome
optimised gnome desktop.
this one, i would like to make, let's say, completely functional with no
needs for a common user to install anything more. It just has all
functions provided my windows or MacOS.
they are:
. audio and video codecs
. out of the box drivers
. filesystem support
. and desktop integration
the packages i speak of, is a propose to add to the gnome desktop task.
(maybe i come late)
>
> > by this i mean that a full desktop task should cover every area of
> > desktop usage such as:
>
> You should take a look at tasksel source package first, but there we go.
>
> > - desktop accessories:
> > . desktop search (beagle)
> > .. beagle-backend-evolution
>
> I use beagle a lot, but do you know about the current leak problems
> and size of .beagle directory? Well, it won't make Etch because it's
> too unstable.
true. i agree.
>
> > . chm visualiser ( xchm or gnochm)
>
> Not sure about .chm readers. Good hint. I'll take a look if it made
> what we think is the last tasksel upload before Etch.
a bunch of ebooks that i recently accessed were in chm. i think it is
useful.
>
> > - development ( i think development tools are not needed)
>
> There is nothing special but Debian Etch GNOME desktop is 'development
> ready'. You know, the package options not the ones installed by
> default.
>
> > - system tools
> > . gconf-editor
> > . gnome-keyring-manager
>
> already done.
>
> > - graphics
> > . gtkam ( today everyone has a digital foto machine)
> > . gthumb
> > . camorama (we cam enable)
> > . gimp
> > .. gtkam-gimp
> > .. gimp-svg
> > .. gimp-print
> > .. gimp-help-en
>
> There's gthumb and gimp. Nothing special for cameras but they're
> usable through 'default' GNOME.
> > . xsane
> > .. libsane-extras
> > .. sane-utils
> > - internet
> > . tsclient
> > .. rdesktop
>
> done
>
> > .. vnc-viewer
>
> If i'm not wrong rdesktop does vnc-viewer, no?
true. it provides.
>
> > . liferea
> > . epiphany-browser
> > .. epiphany-extensions
>
> done ;)
>
> > . gaim
> > .. gaim-backend-evolution
> > . evolution
> > .. evolution-exchange
> > .. evolution-plugins
> > .. evolution-webcal
> > .. contact-lookup-applet
> > . xchat
> > . ekiga
>
> hmm, done! :)
>
> > - productivity
> > . openoffice.org with gnome integration ( the few integration)
> > .. openoffice.org-evolution
>
> done.
>
> > . glabels ( for cd covers, labels, and others)
>
> good hint for lenny.
>
> > . contacts ( address book that integrates with evolution)
>
> hmm?
contacts is an address book for pda's. but it is good to just have an
address book. it's lightwheight and it can substitute evolution in a
fast lookup.
>
> > - sound and video
> > . Istanbul session recorder ( it's for fun)
>
> valid candidate for lenny, imho.
>
> > . totem with all available codecs
>
> We've totem using xine backend and browser plugins too. In other
> words, you can see that pretty good apple traillers on their website,
> got it? ;)
i am using gstreamer. witch backend supports more codecs?
>
> > - games
> > . frozen buble
> > . gnome-sudoku
>
> We've gnome games. ;)
true, but these i think are good to add.
>
> >
> > ==== other stuff ===
> >
> > = nautilus and gnomevfs related
> > to support every fs:
> >
> > . ssh
> > . ftp
> > . gnomevfs-extfs
> > . libntfs-gnomevfs
> > . smbfs ( and smbclient?)
> > . nfs (?)
> > . davfs2
>
> needs review for Lenny, but we've good support for Etch.
my aim is to support all available. if the user needs it, it is there.
>
> > = version control clients =
> > . subversion
> > . cvs
> > . bzr
>
> weren't included yet.
>
> > = drivers =
> >
> > (people will be satisfied if their hardware just work)
> >
> > - printer drivers
> > . hplip
> > . hpoj
> > . hpijs
> > . ( etc)
>
> we've printing support
>
> > = file roller =
> >
> > . arj
> > . tar
> > . bzip2
> > . zip (unzip)
> > . rar (unrar)
> > . lha
> > ( some more)?
>
> some included, some not.
>
> > = development tools =
> > . some? or none?
>
> none by default, we've text editors. let us avoid the eclipse versus
> emacs versus foo favourite development suite war. :)
my aim is not that. my development i would like to have what people
expect. maybe anjuta, glade and mono develop would be nice for people
that want to have develop gnome applications ... but i think it stays
out of the aim of tasksel.
>
> > = administration =
> > . synaptic
> > . gdebi ( to install simple .deb packages)
>
> both included.
>
> >
> > what do you think of this?
> >
>
> That we need some people to verify if what i said that was included,
> is working in Etch (RC1 or upcoming RC2) and let us go ahead to
> include some more good stuff in Lenny and remove what wasn't needed.
i'll try to install with the daily builds. i'll give a note.
>
> thanks,
> -- stratus
>
>
--
Best Regards,
--
Luis Matos
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