On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 23:20 -0400, Luis M wrote: > On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:54:02 +0200, website <website_debian@tiscali.it> wrote: > > On Saturday 30 October 2004 19:06, Luis M wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:22:32 +0200, website <website_debian@tiscali.it> > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday 30 October 2004 17:47, Luis M wrote: > <snip> > > look at the debsplash.conf file in script/: > > # should we drop to verbose mode on initscript errors? (yes/no) > > SPLASH_VERBOSE_ON_ERRORS="yes" > > Oh, i see now. I wonder if this actually works. What relationship is > there between debsplash's splash script and the fbsplash kernel patch? > I guess that fbsplash is using userspace tools to draw the screen and > this configuration settings can be passed to it... > K, i'll hold my horses until I see the whole thing working since I > seem to have only fbsplash patched kernel and nothing else (no > configuration, no scripts). > > > Why not choose? > > some points can be deleted for me: > > 1)download or compile a kernel patched for fbsplash (.deb of the kernel is > > alredy done at the v 2.6.8, and you did the kernel patch for everyone that > > wants to compile a custom kernel) > > >From where would users download this pre-patched kernel binaries? > Debian kernel maintainers will NOT do this. If there is something I > know about the Debian process is that this is a big no no. All users > who want this functionality will have to patch their own kernels or > get it from places like Debian Mentors (as source) and will need to > compile it anyway. I wouldn't trust anybody's sources or binaries :-) > Why would anybody else want to trust these? I tend to agree, why would the kernel developers go though such alot of work just for graphics on boot, which not all users are going to use *ie server users, what need is there?, esp on headless machines* The reality is, any sort of splash is going to be more of a powerusers thing, as it could cause headaches with stablity down the line. And after all we all know debian is about stability. Also i dont think its likly that there will be 2 different kernel tracks. 1 for normal debian kernels and another for debsplash. Im unsure to be honest. > <snip> > > now point 1 is quite finished, also point 2 (debsplash-0.1 is already > > released, see ftp) and i'm working in point 3 > > > > debsplash package is not ready. And it should be named debsplash-utils > anyway. scripts for progressbars are not ready either (unless you got > them to work already). > <snip> > > For do this, we need to modify the kernel patch called fbsplash, if we do this > > you should be sure that you will grow up the work with new kernels > > This is the trend. What we need to do is maintain fbsplash in sync > with gentoo people and we will definitely need to keep doing new > patches for every new kernel that comes later. This is known. And this > is why this type of ideas suck for making fancy boot screens :-) I > know fedora uses a different approach, and perhaps there are other > ways out there (or possible). We simply need to find one that works > totally in user-space without kernel help (or make our patch clean and > simple and submit it to the kernel maintainers for approval and > inclussion into the kernel -- yeah, keep dreaming!) > <snip> > > And here there is a big problem that i found in my first test, if i run the > > init script after logout it works, but if i do by symlink with /etc/rcx.d it > > doesn't work. > > I thought you said you got this working ;-) I'm dying to get my hands > on the code you are using and keep our work in sync. But... > Same here, i want to check them out, i wouldve done them but as ever, time is an issue:/ > -- > ----)(----- > Luis M > System Administrator > LatinoMixed.com > > "We think basically you watch television to turn your brain off, and > you work on your computer when you want to turn your brain on" -- > Steve Jobs in an interview for MacWorld Magazine 2004-Feb > > No .doc: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html > > -- *---------------------------------------------------------* | Glyn Tebbutt | d3c3it-linux@ntlworld.com | |--------------' http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d3c3it | | gpg-key: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d3c3it/d3c3it.gpg | | Lisa, if you dont like your job you dont strike, | | just go in everyday and do it really half-assed | | Thats the American way. -Homer Simpson | *---------------------------------------------------------*
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