Re: Are there other derivatives based on Debian Testing?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 03:44:48PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> are there other Debian derivatives based on Debian Testing? (I don't know
> how to grep on the census...)
Knoppix is based mainly on testing with some packages from unstable (xorg
drivers) and experimental (iceweasel).
> In Kali, we have a workflow where we constantly sync with Debian Testing
> and our kali-dev release breaks from time to time due to breakage in
> - some package migrate alone when they should not (ex: texinfo with
> - some packages are removed because the maintainer disappeared (ex: tcpick
> with #778141)
> - etc.
> Are there other derivatives affected by such breakages and that would
> be interested in cooperating to:
> - try to avoid such breakage in the first place
> - try to limit the amount of time testing is broken for us
It happens in Knoppix, too, mostly because of invalid, missing or very
stubborn dependencies (such as network-manager depending on systemd).
It's resolved here by some manual apt-get magic plus, in rare case,
forks of packages with changed dependencies. In the latter case, you can
find the sources at http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org/ .
> We push temporary fixes in our kali-dev repo but it would be better
> for everybody if such temporary fixes would reach testing itself.
>From my experience, it's much less stressful to file an official bug
report (reportbug) in case of problematic package configurations or
dependencies in the original debian/testing, but create and maintain
solutions "private" to a derivative and publish them in parallel, so the
original package maintainers can have a look on your solution. But still
I'm looking forward to hear about your personal experience discussing
desired package changes with the original maintainers & the results. :-)