Re: DEX update and next steps
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- Cc: Allison Randal <allison@canonical.com>, Amaya Rodrigo Sastre <amaya@debian.org>, Andrew Mitchell <ajmitch@debian.org>, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio <andrewsomething@ubuntu.com>, Bilal Akhtar <bilalakhtar@ubuntu.com>, David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>, Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah@jeremiahfoster.com>, Micah Gersten <micahg@ubuntu.com>, Nathan Handler <nhandler@ubuntu.com>, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>, Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, James Westby <jw+debian@jameswestby.net>
- Subject: Re: DEX update and next steps
- From: Matt Zimmerman <mdz@canonical.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:54:51 +0000
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 05:19:09PM +0000, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:37:25AM +0000, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > * http://people.ubuntu.com/patches/kernel_udebs_from_kernel_source.diff
> > (Discussion: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg01446.html)
> > [...]
> > Is anyone here more knowledgeable about the Debian kernel?
I did a bit more investigation and decided that this is not worth pursuing.
The Debian and Ubuntu kernels are indepnedent, so this doesn't represent a
proper delta, and reconsidering how kernel udebs are created in Debian is
outside the scope of this project.
I've marked it as irrelevant.
> > * http://people.ubuntu.com/patches/pbbuttonsd.fixrunlevel.patch
> > [...]
> > Is anyone here more knowledgeable about pbbuttonsd?
>
> These still need help!
The relevant Ubuntu bug is:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pbbuttonsd/+bug/18468
which explains that the runlevel change was made to ensure that pbbuttonsd
was started before gdm, so that gdm would offer the "suspend computer"
option.
I wonder if this change is actually still solving that problem, given that
gdm is now launched by upstart in Ubuntu, and uses devicekit-power rather
than gnome-power-manager.
gdm in Debian still starts at S30, so I don't think this problem ever
existed in Debian.
I'm marking it as irrelevant.
> > * http://people.ubuntu.com/patches/sysvinit-quietinit.patch
> > (Debian bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326677)
> >
> > This patch added a "quietinit" boot parameter which would suppress the
> > "booting" message which was otherwise printed unconditionally.
> >
> > It was since dropped in Ubuntu because it's no longer necessary as
> > the splash screen is started earlier. Ubuntu subsequently switched to
> > upstart, so it is doubly unnecessary in Ubuntu.
> >
> > It was filed in the Debian BTS by a Debian maintainer, and the bug is
> > still open, but I think there's probably no point in merging it at this
> > stage and it should be dropped.
> >
> > Would it be OK to simply close this bug and withdraw the patch, or should
> > we have a discussion with the maintainers first?
I've emailed the bug submitter to check what he wants to do.
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- mdz
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