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Re: spam (Re: Bug#202373: traitor offstage)



On Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Oleg Verych wrote:
> Note, that i'm talking about forwarded messages.

There's no real difference. Messages come into the bts, are stored.
Messages go out of the bts, and are also stored. The same message goes
to -dist, the maintainer, the pts, and anyone who is subscribed to the
bug.

> OK, let me show how it looks:
> 
> #433834: curl: Should run tests on hurd-i386 either
> ->33836: nautilus: No documentation on which volumen devices icons are shown and
> #433837: nautilus: Unusable "unmount volume" option
> #432614: dvgrab: uses unsupported isochronous request types
> #433285: found 433285 in 0.4.0b-10, closing 433285
> 
> See last one? It's without context, while previous have one.
> And this is currenty depends: or it's generated by reportbug, or pkg
> name added by hand by developer who answered. I'm asking about making
> all them look same.

The all look the same; the only thing that debbugs adds is the #NNN:;
every other bit is the subject of the message which was sent to bug
NNN or affected bug NNN.

Control transcripts can affect hundreds or thousands of bugs, so
there's no way that all of the packages will ever be listed in the
subject.

> Second thing's threading (combining above):
> 
> #433834: curl: Should run tests on hurd-i386 either
> ->33836: nautilus: No documentation on which volumen devices icons are shown and
> #433837: nautilus: Unusable "unmount volume" option
> `| (empty means same subject)
>  `- #433837: nautilus: found XYZ in 0.4.0b-10, closing XYY
>     `- #433837: nautilus: Done....
> 
> That's what i'm talking about.

That's not reasonable either, because you're assuming a message is in
reply to another message, when it isn't neccessarily a reply.

Making it easier for people to include the appropriate References: and
In-Reply-To: is the way forward, which will resolve most cases of this
for actual messages. I'm willing to apply appropriate patches for
that, but I'm not planning on faking References: or In-Reply-To: for
the above reasons.


Don Armstrong

-- 
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.     
 -- Robert Heinlein

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